【键盘侠】湖人客场擒狼|他的黑子体量堪称现役球星之最？！
2021-02-17 16:07:18 我乐直播 www.wolezhibo.com
[Post Game Thread] The Los Angeles Lakers (22-7) defeat the Minnesota Timberwolves (7-21), 112 - 104
【赛后帖】洛杉矶湖人（22胜7负）今日在客场以112-104轻取明尼苏达森林狼（7胜21负）。
詹姆斯30分13篮板7助攻，施罗德24分3助攻4抢断，哈雷尔17分6篮板3助攻，加索尔11分5篮板2封盖，库兹马7分4篮板，莫里斯9分2篮板；唐斯15分6篮板4助攻，爱德华兹28分7篮板5助攻2封盖，卢比奥13分4篮板8助攻，比斯利11分2篮板，麦克劳林13分2篮板4助攻。
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[–]Lakers G1Spectrum 217 指標 2小時前
LeBron 30-13-7, padding that MVP case
湖人球迷：老詹30+13+7，加大MVP力度！
[–][OKC] Kevin Ollie IncaseAce 62 指標 2小時前
With no AD, that MVP case might be unquestionable if it’s holds up
雷霆球迷：现在戴维斯不打，要是詹姆斯这表现稳定下来，那他拿MVP的说服力或许是无可挑剔的。
[–]Lakers Looperstooper 48 指標 2小時前
5-1 without AD this season
湖人球迷：本赛季没有戴维斯的情况下，我湖已经5胜1负
[–]ResponsibleWarthog10 17 指標 2小時前
he's definitely winning if the lakers get the 1 seed
but that'd be tough.
如果你湖最后拿到第一，那他肯定能拿MVP。
不过这很难啊
[–]NBA aulixindragonz34 33 指標 2小時前
If lakers is the 2nd seed but AD is out for considerable amount of time i can see lebron winning it
如果湖人在戴维斯缺席大量比赛的情况下拿到第二，那我觉得老詹也能拿。
[–]Responsible Warthog10 14 指標 2小時前
yeah for sure. especially if the jazz get the 1 seed because no one on that team is getting mvp of course.
if it's the clippers i could see kawhi getting buzz if he plays better as well.
那是肯定的啊。要是爵士拿到第一那就更是老詹的了，因为爵士没人能拿MVP。
如果快船拿到第一，且小卡也打得更好的话，那我觉得他也会很有呼声。
[–]Jazz LlamaCombo 1 指標 1小時前
Ingles 4 MVP, fight me.
爵士球迷：要是我爵第一，那英格尔斯拿MVP啊，不服来干呐(???)
[–]NBA aulixindragonz34 1 指標 1小時前
Embiid if the sixers are 1st has a case imo.
如果76人拿到东部第一，那我觉得恩比德有机会争一争。
[–]Nuggets GoyathlayA 2 指標 57 分鐘前
Only if the Sixers record is comparable.
Right now the East is weak as hell, the Lakers 2nd seed is considerably better than the Sixers 1st seed, AND Embiid has missed a shit ton of games.
那也得76人战绩有得比才行啊。
现在的东部菜得一匹，西部就排第二的湖人也比东部第一的76人战绩好很多，并且恩比德没打的比赛老多了。
[–]Warriors surosregime 16 指標 2小時前
Man fuck voter fatigue he deserves it so far
勇士球迷：哎呀，去特么的投票疲劳，目前为止就詹姆斯配得上MVP
[–]CIark [分數隱藏] 22 分鐘前
Why do people keep saying voter fatigue when he hasn’t won one in like 9 years? Like shit Giannis is the only one who has legit voter fatigue just give Bron his damn respect
老詹明明已经大概有9年没拿MVP了，那些人干嘛老拿投票疲劳来搪塞呢？靠，要真说投票疲劳那也只有字母哥啊，特么多尊重下老詹不行吗？！
[–]Celtics theraarman -4 指標 2小時前
Who is the most valuable player to their team? I got 1 curry 2 lebron
Honestly lakers wouldn’t have this sick record without lbj and Warriors would be near the bottom without curry
凯尔特人球迷：谁是各自球队最有价值的球员？我觉得首先是库里，然后是詹姆斯。
讲真，要是没有老詹，湖人就不会有现在这变态战绩；要是没有库里，勇士这会儿差不多垫底了。
[–]NBA iRockaflame 6 指標 2小時前
So tough though. You take out Jokic and the Nuggets are going straight to the lottery. Dame, Curry and Bron are the same.
MVP is going to come down to whoever has the #1 or 2 seed and can maintain their stats the best.
可是也很难判定MVP人选啊。你拿掉约基奇，掘金直冲乐透区。利拉德、库里和老詹对各自球队的重要性都一样。
最后谁拿MVP，还得看谁的球队能拿到前两名，同时他们自己还得交出领先其他人的数据。
[–]Lakers Rager_YMN_6 21 指標 2小時前
Naw, respect to Curry but it's LeBron
Without LeBron we're a damn lottery team, he does literally everything for us on both ends of the floor, even if he coasts at times defensively. There's a reason he's considered the most valuable player to a team of all time due to everything he brings.
湖人球迷：不，我很尊重库里，不过这奖还得是老詹的。
要是没有他，我湖就特么是一支乐透球队，虽说老詹偶尔会防守划水，可他还真就是在攻防两端既当爹又当妈。不然你觉得大家为啥会觉得他是我湖这种历史顶级球队里的最有价值球员呢，就因为他大包大揽。
[–]Timberwolves pineapple192 18 指標 2小時前*
Without KAT the Timberwolves are the worst team in the league so he should easily win the MVP.
With KAT they are also the worst team in the league but let's just ignore that so we can have something nice.
森林狼球迷：没有唐斯，我狼就是联盟最菜球队，所以他肯定能拿MVP==
有了唐斯，我狼也是联盟最菜，不过咱们可以无视这一点，权当图个乐嘛
[–]mapletree23 1 指標 1小時前
embiid's missed games is going to be a blemish on his mvp chances
denver's record is going to be a blemish against jokic at this rate
if embiid keeps sitting it's probably going to turn into who has the better record between jokic and lebron or if lebron can keep the lakers afloat without AD, which for now he has been getting the wins
恩比德少打好多场比赛会削弱他拿MVP的机会。丹佛的战绩也会拖累约基奇争夺MVP。
如果恩比德继续缺阵，或许这场MVP之争将会演变成约基奇和詹姆斯之间球队战绩的较量，要不就干脆说，MVP最终归属就看詹姆斯能否在AD不在的时候不让湖人掉队。
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[–]Celtics Contrxt 2 指標 2小時前
Lakers always play down to competition
凯尔特人球迷：湖人总能把比赛打到胶着状态……
[–]Lakers echoecho25 200 指標 1小時前
Anthony Edwards is so special. Also LeBron, Dennis, and Trezz were so good tonight. Dennis is so good when AD doesn't play
湖人球迷：爱德华兹不一般啊。还有詹姆斯、施罗德和哈雷尔今晚都打得挺好。戴维斯不打的时候，施罗德表现尤为出色。
[–][ORL] Mickael Pietrus zackarykapowski 85 指標 1小時前
Dennis scores well, but his point guard skills are pretty bad.
魔术球迷：施罗德今天投得挺准，不过他的控卫技能其实挺菜的。
[–]Lakers captjacksparrow47 3 指標 1小時前
Lets be honest, Lebron's the pg in lakers
湖人球迷：凭良心说吧，詹姆斯才是我湖的控卫。
[–]Lakers echoecho25 47 指標 1小時前
I agree but his skillet is one that is useful. Part of the reason he looks so bad is bc when Bron and AD play they like to just hold the ball and it turns Dennis into a spot up shooter. No AD and Dennis can initiate more for himself and he does well. He also works his butt off on defense
湖人球迷：我同意，但是他自身的技术特点还是挺有用的。之所咱们会觉得他不行，有部分原因在于，老詹和戴维斯在场时，他俩喜欢持球，这就让施罗德只能做定点投手。没了戴维斯之后，施罗德的自主进攻更多了，打得也好。而且他防守端也是非常卖力。
[–]good olvj[ ] [分數隱藏] 22 分鐘前
Which is why I wasn't as sold on him as everybody on this sub was when they traded for him. He's had one good season so far, he needs to prove that he can be productive on a team where he has a lesser role but still contribute.
所以之前他加盟湖人的时候人人都很看好，我却没有盲从啊。他本赛季目前为止打得还不错，但他还需要证明自己可以在减少戏份的情况下，依然能有重要输出。
[–][LAL] LeBron James xyneid 8 指標 1小時前
He won't handle the ball in playoffs as frequently. He's the starting PG so that LeBron isn't ran to the ground handling the ball. I'm sure (and hoping) LeBron will resume his usual service come playoffs.
湖人球迷：到了季后撒阶段，施罗德的持球频度必然会下降。他现在是我湖的首发控卫，就是为了让詹姆斯不必拿着球满场奔。我相信（也希望）老詹到了季后赛能够干回老本行。
[–][ORL] Mickael Pietrus zackarykapowski 9 指標 1小時前
Yeah absolutely, just hurts not really having another true playmaker on the team. Gasol is nice, but limited. Would be great if Dennis could create more for others and was quicker w his decisions.
魔术球迷：这是肯定的，一支球队如果只有一个真正的组织者，那还是挺难受的。小加的组织不错，不过也有限啊。要是施罗德能加快场上决策、并为队友创造更多机会的话，那就酸爽了。
[–][LAL] LeBron James xyneid 6 指標 1小時前
Gasol is the second best playmaker on the team and it's saying something about the overall playmaking of the Lakers. Gasol's real value is his BBIQ contribution and spacing the floor for LeBron. Dennis is good at slashing and occasional threes, but he's really not an elite playmaker especially considering that he's replaced Rondo.
湖人球迷：要论对我湖进攻的整体串联，小加是我湖的二号组织者。他的真正价值在于高球商输出，以及为老詹拉开空间。施罗德的强项在于攻篮下和偶尔进个三分，不过他还真不是啥优秀的组织者，何况他取代的是隆多的位置。
[–]Mystic Knives 60 指標 2小時前
Edwards is clearly legit.
That second half effort for the Lakers was nice to see, especially when Bron wasn’t in.
Also, with AD being out for awhile, Harrell is a very useful pickup for them.
爱德华兹肉眼可见地厉害。
湖人下半场打得挺拼的，尤其是在詹姆斯休息的时候。
再有，如今戴维斯应该要休一阵子了，这就能体现出哈雷尔这笔签约的作用之大了。
[–]futureviking3030 7 指標 1小時前
Harrell won the game tonight, just constant positive plays in the second half.
湖人今晚就赢在哈雷尔这一点，他下半场持续提供正向输出。
[–]Bulls celsius_two_3_two 2 指標 1小時前
I really like how Trezz feels a bit bad every time he gets a dime from Bron and he fails to get an and-1 finish off of a mismatch. The dude just goes hard to push himself further.
公牛球迷：每次哈雷尔得到詹姆斯喂饼可以错位打2+1，但是他却没打成的时候，哈雷尔都觉得有点亏欠，我很喜欢他这种态度。这家伙就是在努力逼着自己进步。
[–]vvrr00 14 指標 2小時前
Lmao everyone were shitting on gasol and he guarded kat well and somehow shot well as well lol
哈哈哈哈，之前人人都在喷小加，结果他今天防唐斯防得挺好，居然投得也不赖，哈哈
[–]Timberwolves la-blakers 2 指標 2小時前
Has he been on a cold streak or bad for the Lakers? Besides getting old I've generally considered him to be the real deal
森林狼球迷：难道他之前一直打得不好吗？除了年纪大了些，我觉得湖人这笔交易做得挺划算的。
[–]Timberwolves vMambaaa 2 指標 1小時前
Gasol has always gotten the better of KAT tbf
森林狼球迷：有一说一，唐斯每次小加都是被压制的
[–]Lakers Trapped_In_A_Bag 7 指標 2小時前
Take a random guess on who has the game high +/-
湖人球迷：大家随便猜猜，谁是今晚正负值最高的球员
[–]Lakers markjay6 12 指標 2小時前
The GOAT?
湖人球迷：历史第一人？
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[–]Mavericks TheRealPdGaming 140 指標 2小時前*
I didn't watch this game. Only followed the highlights in the sub, and I swear to God I thought the Lakers would have lost.
LeBron's own ankle breaker, the air ball 3, everything that's been posted about this game makes it look like they were going to get blown out but they actually won.
独行侠球迷：我没看这场比赛，就看了些论坛里的集锦，我还真以为湖人输了呢
一会儿是老詹险些扭到自己，一会儿又是LOGO三不沾，关于这场比赛的各种帖子看下来，给人的错觉就是湖人被对手打花了，结果他们其实赢了。
[–]Yacht Club arcelios 100 指標 2小時前
Some of the posts tonight made me think LeBron is struggling tonight.. especially without AD and any other reliable 3rd option. And the Lakers losing by 30 to the Wolves
今晚有些帖子真让我以为老詹打得很难受……何况湖人还缺少戴维斯，以及其他可靠的第三强点。而且我还以为湖人被森林狼狂胜30分。
[–][LAL] Sasha Vuja?i? PairedFoot08 45 指標 2小時前
Its been really weird in general lately, we have now won 8 of our last 9 but so much of the discussion has been negative (mainly among our own fanbase)
I get it we arent at our best, but the sky is very far from falling
湖人球迷：最近这种风气确实奇怪，我湖最近9场赢了8场，可是很多讨论都是负面的（大多还是来自我们湖蜜自己人）
我湖确实不在最佳状态，可也不至于搞得跟天塌下来一样啊
[–]Lakers ginbooth 10 指標 2小時前
Can't believe how quickly the casuals turn on players. It's annoying AF. The Denver post-game thread had a bunch of comments calling Schroder a scrub and wanting him off the team. I find it easier to deal with idiots on opposing teams than on my own.
湖人球迷：那些伪球迷对球员们态度的转变，快到简直让人不敢相信。TMD烦死了都！之前打丹佛的赛后帖里，一堆人说施罗德是水货，希望他离队。
我发现对付那些其他球队的蠢货倒还好说，真正难缠的是自家的蠢货。
[–]Lakers _Meece_ 19 指標 2小時前
It's cause we expected our defense to get worse and our offense to improve, but the opposite has happened, so everyone is frustrated.
Stagnant, league average offense can be painful to watch, because all the other top teams have an elite offense. Makes it feel like your team is missing something.
湖人球迷：那是因为咱们湖蜜之前都觉得我湖的防守会变菜进攻会提高，结果现实却刚好相反，所以人人都很沮丧。
我湖现在这联盟平均水准的停滞进攻确实辣眼睛，因为其他顶级球队都有顶级进攻。咱们湖蜜就会觉得自家球队少了点儿啥
[–]Lakers NotBrokeJustBent23 8 指標 2小時前
Our offense hasn’t been great because everyone went cold from three. It’ll pick up once we actually hit our shots and stop turning the ball over so much.
湖人球迷：我湖进攻一般般是因为队员们三分都投不开。啥时候他们能找到手感且控制失误了，那就都回来了。
[–]Hawks ImgonnawaverwireAB 16 指標 2小時前
It’s weird because it feels like every thread sucks off lebron, but every post I see is anti-Bron/“lakers have issues”
老鹰球迷：真是诡异啊，我总感觉每个帖子都在跪舔詹姆斯，可实际看到的每个帖子都是“反詹或者湖人有麻烦”。
[–]Mystic Knives 21 指標 2小時前
There’s been a so many threads with Bron hate and or salt within the past 7 days. MVP talk threads had so much salt towards him being the front runner atm. This place isn’t really as pro-Bron as one might possibly think. He gets tons of love of course. But he’s got probably the largest amount of haters of any active player
最近这一周有好多帖子都在对老詹或黑或酸。那些讨论MVP的帖子里，很多人不爽他MVP领跑者的地位。这个论坛还真不是你想当然地那样亲詹。确实有很多人喜欢他，但他的喷子体量或许是现役球员里最庞大的。
[–]Lakers AfroSuede 95 指標 2小時前
The haters are real quick with the trigger
湖人球迷：那帮黑子准备素材的速度可真够快的
[–]Lakers richard_golbes 12 指標 2小時前
Lebron haters are a curious crowd.
湖人球迷：那就是一帮古怪的怂货。
[–][LAL] LeBron James xyneid 45 指標 1小時前
It's even more ironic that the guy who posted them is a Lakers fan lol.
湖人球迷：更讽刺的是，那个贴黑詹素材的人还是个湖蜜，哈哈哈
[–]Midautumn32 27 指標 1小時前
Lakers fan but lebron hater i guess
我猜是湖蜜兼詹黑吧
[–]Lakers AthKaElGal 10 指標 1小時前
Old Laker fans were rabid Kobe fans who hated anyone surpassing Kobe. Lebron became their hate generator.
湖人球迷：那些年纪大的湖蜜以前都是极端科蜜，他们不想看到任何人超越科比的地位。那詹姆斯自然就成了他们的仇恨源头
[–]Lakers Donaldtrumpet6543 6 指標 49 分鐘前
I actually Hate that lol. How can you be a laker fan while hating the man who has made LA relevant again. I have to admit, i hated lebron when he wasn't with us but him joining the team saved us from mediocrity and got us our 17 th ring. Now ill fight anyone shitting on the king
湖人球迷：其实我挺反感这种做法的，哈哈。既然你是个湖蜜，那你怎么还能去喷一个让我湖再度崛起的人呢？！我坦白，老詹没来我湖的时候我是个詹黑，可是他加入我湖带队走出平庸，还拿到了我湖的第17个冠军。现在要是谁黑国王，那我就跟谁急。
[–]Lakers LakersNRavens 15 指標 2小時前
Brooklyn on thursday...
湖人球迷：周四（北京时间周五）就要打篮网了……
[–]Masterpiece Enough544 6 指標 2小時前
That game is gonna have so many wild takes
那到时候肯定会有很多荒腔走板的言论
[–]Clippers _ArthurDigbySellers_ 22 指標 2小時前
Not a Laker fan (far from a hater either) but it’s a blessing to get to watch as many Lebron games as we do in LA. Just a once in a lifetime athlete.
快船球迷：我不是湖蜜（压根也不是湖黑），不过我觉得能够在洛城看到这么多场詹姆斯的比赛，就是我的荣幸。他这种球员一辈子才见得到一个。
[–]Spurs moltch 14 指標 2小時前
Lebron's the GOAT
马刺球迷：詹姆斯就是历史最强。
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[–]Timberwolves EsotericPotato 114 指標 2小時前
Felt like Lebron taking that charge killed that game. Ant was willing the wolves back into this game.
森林狼球迷：我感觉是老詹制造的那个进攻犯规杀死了比赛。蚁人（爱德华兹的绰号）本来凭一己之力把我狼带回了比赛。
[–]Timberwolves Skoltrain 66 指標 1小時前
Rubio and Vando missing the layups was the dagger tho
森林狼球迷：可卢比奥和范德彪的那两次上篮才更伤啊
[–]futureviking3030 14 指標 1小時前
Rubio's lack of ability to finish straightforward (for the NBA) layups is pretty bananas.
卢比奥篮下终结能力的匮乏真是让人头疼
[–]Timberwolves Skoltrain 4 指標 1小時前
Just scoring in general for him. Every shot feels like it’s gonna hit the front of the rim. Tbf tho this layup was a kinda tough reverse layup but a good
finisher like Dame or Fox makes this 90% of the time
森林狼球迷：他的得分就是个大难题。每次出手感觉都是碰篮筐前沿。说实话，他那个反篮有点难度的，不过像利拉德和福克斯这种终结者，90%的概率能进。
[–]Magic MetalBackboardHooper 45 指標 2小時前
10 shots for Towns is just incredibly ridiculous. Saunders needs canned immediately.
魔术球迷：唐斯就10次出手，这简直就离谱。小桑德斯必须得马上滚蛋。
[–]Timberwolves srry_didnt_hear_you 40 指標 2小時前
I don't like Saunders much either, but I'm pretty sure KAT is still in recovery mode, he looks a bit out of shape.
森林狼球迷：我也不咋喜欢小桑德斯，不过我觉得唐斯还在恢复中，他看起来身体有点不在状态。
[–]Lakers yungtatha 13 指標 2小時前
He sat for a looong stretch and looked tired in the 2nd half. Maybe he still has stamina issues from COVID.
湖人球迷：唐斯之前歇得太久了，下半场看起来很疲惫。或许他新冠康复后还有些体能问题。
[–]Timberwolves Tschmelz 15 指標 2小時前
Yup. KAT needs to knock the rust off still I think. He’ll be back to normal soon I think.
森林狼球迷：是的，我觉得唐斯的手还有点生。他会很快回到正常状态的。
[–]Timberwolves OnePieceAce 20 指標 2小時前
Ant Edwards is the only thing keeping me alive in this dark cold world. Also fire Saunders please
森林狼球迷：在这个阴暗寒冷的世界里，我活下去的唯一动力就是爱德华兹。还有，赶紧炒了小桑德斯吧
[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant PM-ME-YOUR-FoUrSKIN 37 指標 2小時前
Great team game from the Lakers, but damn Anthony Edwards is improving every game. The league has so many upcoming guards
湖人球迷：我湖今天打得不错，不过这特么爱德华兹每场比赛都在进步啊。联盟涌现了好多后卫苗子啊。
[–]Hawks dogwoodmaple 88 指標 2小時前
Best game of the season from Edwards.
老鹰球迷：这是爱德华兹本赛季打得最好的一场比赛。
[–]Keith VanHorny 85 指標 2小時前
LeBron realizing Edwards was caught up in his own hype and taking the charge late in the 4th was an awesome teaching moment. With the right work ethic, Edwards is a future all-star.
老詹知道爱德华兹打得上头了，就在第四节末段造了他进攻犯规，这堂课上得挺生动的。只要保持正确的职业操守，爱德华兹以后会进全明星的。
[–]Lakers Apollo611 2 指標 2小時前
He was going off until that charge, then he talked some shit to our bench, and didn’t hit anything after. Learning experience for sure, he’s going to be great.
湖人球迷：那次进攻犯规之前，爱德华兹打嗨了，后面他对我湖板凳席一顿喷，之后就手感全无了。这肯定是成长的经验，他以后会很厉害的。
[–]Lakers echoecho25 33 指標 2小時前
He has all the tools to be an elite three level scorer. Such a fun player
湖人球迷：他具备成为一个顶级三分得分手的一切条件，观赏性非常高。
[–]Lakers JohnnyDozentKnow 57 指標 2小時前
I still think he was the right choice at #1 by the TWolves
湖人球迷：我仍然觉得森林狼选他当状元是对的。
[–]Timberwolves GartThrowaway 32 指標 2小時前
me too man, Lamelo obviously hotter out the gate with his pro experience but Edwards has a crazy high ceiling
森林狼球迷：我也是这么觉得的，三球现在的状态显然更火热，毕竟他以前打过职业篮球，可爱德华兹的上限很高。
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编译：云长刮个痧