【键盘侠】独行侠欲谋求交易|加上字母哥 则霸业可成?
2020-10-29 21:30:30 我乐直播 www.wolezhibo.com
Mavs willing to trade anyone not named Luka Doncic or Kristaps Porzingis in order to win now
日前有报道称,为了现阶段就能竞争总冠军,独行侠愿意交易东契奇和波津之外的任何人。
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[–]Clippers GalantisX 88 指標 1 天前
I’m sure some teams would like to get mark cuban and Rick carlslie
快船球迷:既然是任何人的话,那我相信,肯定会有球队想得到库班和卡莱尔 (???)
[–]Rockets slumdogbillionaire 28 指標 1 天前
I'd trade Harden and Westbrook NOW to get Cuban > Fertita
火箭球迷:我愿意立马用哈登和威少去换库班,他可比费尔蒂塔强。
[–]Bulls Ld511 1332 指標 1 天前
The Mavs got a once in a lifetime chance with Luka being a top 10 player basically in year 2 on a rookie contract with 2021 free agency coming up
独行侠真是机会难得啊,东契奇这还在菜鸟合同期,才第二年就差不多跻身联盟前十了,而且21年的自由市场又能干一票大的。
[–]Lakers 056rza- 1097 指標 1 天前*
I think they’re being a little short sighted saying KP is untouchable. Luka’s only 21 they have a ton of time to find him an elite running mate.
KP and his injury history are not dependable at all. Sell high.
湖人球迷:我觉得他们说铂金不能动有点短视了。东契奇才21啊,他们还有大把的时间去给这个年轻人找一个顶级搭档。
铂金和他的伤病史一点都不靠谱,赶紧高点卖出吧
[–]Lakers CaptainKurls 15 指標 1 天前
Idk I’d take the chance on it. With those two healthy they were taking on the Clippers and (to me) it seemed that they could’ve beaten em had KP not been injured
湖人球迷:我倒愿意冒险试试。他俩健康的时候独行侠不输快船啊,而且我觉得,要是铂金没伤,他们似乎能干掉快船。
[–]Spurs yeacomethru 387 指標 1 天前*
I dont agree. KP is good and all but there’s definitely a better rim-running fit for him.
马刺球迷:我不认同。铂金是很强,但对于东契奇来说,肯定还有更好的攻筐辅助。
[–]Mavericks Just_Dreams 126 指標 1 天前
Rim running is like the 3rd or 4th most important thing KP does lol. There's no better pairing for Luka outside of maybe AD honestly. The injury concerns are one thing. But the basketball fit is perfect.
独行侠球迷:攻筐只能算是铂金第三甚至是第四重要的技能,哈哈哈。说真的,或许除了戴维斯,最适合搭档东契奇的只有波尔津吉斯。伤病归伤病,但纯竞技而言,他俩是完美搭档。
[–]jpylol 42 指標 1 天前
Maybe AD? AD pairs with Luca better. There, I said it for you.
或许除了戴维斯?戴维斯搭东契奇肯定更强。我替你说了。
[–]Mavericks buffalobill41 175 指標 1 天前
I think saying that about KP is more just for perception, they're not shopping him but he's not untradeable.
独行侠球迷:反正我觉得吧,球队放话说铂金不能动更多的是一种试探,他们现在不会动他,但不代表他是不可交易的。
[–]Lakers EverybodyBuddy 92 指標 1 天前
Yeah . You show respect to one of your stars. No reason to mess with chemistry or big egos until you have to. Especially since there’s a very good chance he’s still on the team next year.
(That is, unless the offer is right)
湖人球迷:对头。总得给队里的球星留几分尊重啊。若无那个必要,干嘛要平白无故地搞乱队里的化学反应或是去招惹那些自负的球员呢。何况铂金下赛季大概率还是会留在队里。
(话虽如此,要是报价合适就另当别论了)
[–]Heat Giannis1995 19 指標 19小時前
Kristaps is a franchise building cornerstone, an untouchable, yada yada yada until a real top 10 player is offered for him.
热火球迷:铂金是建队基石,不能动,巴拉巴拉,除非有球队用真正的前十球员换他==
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[–]WayOff_P 121 指標 1 天前
watch them not trade for anyone to keep that cap space open for Giannis next year
走着瞧吧,独行侠谁都不会交易,他们要留着薪资空间等明年签字母哥。
[–]Bulls jabera1997 598 指標 1 天前
KP as a 3rd option with Luka and Giannis is gonna be lethal
公牛球迷:字母哥来了之后,铂金做第三强点,这可太致命了
[–]Lakers secretreddname 43 指標 1 天前
Next European superteam.
湖人球迷:下一个欧化超级强队。
[–][CLE] Mark Price PrinceOfKanzas 13 指標 1 天前
Lebron seeing new superteam emerging: sigh... shit, here we go again...
骑士球迷:看到新的超级球队成型之后的老詹表示:哎……靠,又来了……
[–]Spurs yeacomethru 242 指標 1 天前
Definitely, threats all over the floor. Who do you cover in this situation? You’re fucked no matter who you turn your attention to.
马刺球迷:那肯定很强,全场都是威胁。对手该防谁哦?不管你把注意力防到谁身上都得完犊子。
[–]Still NotAF___Clue 13 指標 1 天前
I dont know, Luka is ball dominant. So is Giannis. No indication of either being ether off the ball.
不好说哦,东契奇是需要球权的,字母哥也是。他俩谁都没有打无球的意思。
[–]nipslip69_420 21 指標 21小時前
If harden and cp3 can work so can them
如果哈登和保罗能成,那字母哥和东契奇也没问题。
[–]Bulls jabera1997 210 指標 1 天前
I’m a big time Giannis fan I’d love for him to go somewhere he can succeed I don’t see him winning a ship in Milwaukee sadly.
公牛球迷:我是字母哥铁粉,很希望他去其他地方取得成功,可悲的是,我觉得他在密尔沃基拿不到冠军。
[–]Cavaliers tdizhere 42 指標 1 天前
I actually like that he’s a superstar wanting to play for a small city team. You too often see stars leave for big cities. I never see media say a player should join the suns, despite having a great young core and a bonafide Star in Booker, instead they are saying he needs to leave.
That being said, I think Bucks are one proper half court facilitator away from a title.
骑士球迷:就是因为他这种超巨想在小球会打球,我才喜欢他的。球星为了大城市而离队的情况太多了。从来都没看媒体说哪个球员应该加盟太阳,他们明明有个年轻核心团队,还有布克这种实打实的球星,可媒体还是说布克得离队。
话虽如此,我觉得雄鹿离冠军就差一个合适的半场发动机。
[–][MIA] Mario Chalmers theWinnerWithin 26 指標 1 天前
People say those things about Booker because of Sarver and the Suns' track record over the last 10 years, as awesome as they were in the bubble. If the Knicks drafted a stud, most of us would argue that he should leave and rescue himself asap while nobody really argues for people to leave teams like Spurs or OKC. It's not that black and white.
热火球迷:虽说太阳复赛后很猛,但是大家建议布克离队,那是因为萨沃尔这种老板和太阳过去十年的战绩。如果尼克斯选了一个狠人,咱们大多数人也会撺掇他尽早离队自保,但他要是在马刺或雷霆咱就不会说啥。这事儿也不是那么非黑即白。
[–]Bucks guacamully 97 指標 1 天前
As much as I don’t want Giannis to leave, if it does happen, I hope it’s the Mavs.
雄鹿球迷:尽管我非常不乐意字母哥离开,可要真有那么一天的话,希望他去独行侠。
[–]Mavericks humax02 16 指標 1 天前
Maybe he gonna play at Mavs for like 4 years then comeback to you guys to try and win again like Lebron did with Cleveland.
独行侠球迷:搞不好他在我侠打个四年左右,再像詹姆斯回骑士那样,回到雄鹿争取再拿一个冠军呢。
[–]Bulls jabera1997 44 指標 1 天前
I’d love for Milwaukee to get him a real star to play with. middleton doesn’t cut it as much as I love him. If he leaves I’m gonna miss driving an hour and half from Chicago to watch him play at the Fiserv Forum
公牛球迷:我倒希望雄鹿给字母哥找个真正的球星搭档,虽说我很喜欢米德尔顿,但他还不是那块料。如果字母哥走了,我会想念从芝加哥驱车一个半小时去费哲论坛球馆看他打球的日子。
[–]Cavaliers tdizhere 20 指標 1 天前
They win 60+ games a year I don’t think talent is the problem. The problem is fit, Bledsoe isn’t a good fit with Giannis and it gets exposed in the playoffs
骑士球迷:雄鹿好歹是赛季60+胜场的球队,我觉得他们不缺天赋。问题在于适配性,布莱德索和字母哥不搭啊,到了季后赛就被针对了。
[–]Pistons DMan9797 88 指標 1 天前
If Giannis says he wont sign an extension is there a possibility for a KP for Giannis deal? Bucks get a star long term and Mavs dont have to gamble in 2021 for Giannis and avoids a potential line up clog with himself and KP
活塞球迷:如果字母哥发话说不续约的话,那铂金换字母哥的交易是不是有可能了?这样一来,雄鹿能长期留住一个球星,独行侠也不必在21年为字母哥豪赌一把,字母和铂金同时出场的阵容卡壳问题也就不存在了。
[–][MIL] Jabari Parker Jalinja 194 指標 1 天前
I don't think they're a line up clog together at all. Porzingis is a stretch 5 that defends pretty well and complements Giannis perfectly in a zone defense since they can share rim protecting duties
雄鹿球迷:哪怕铂金和字母哥同时出场,我也觉得阵容一点都不会卡壳。铂金是个很擅长防守的空间型5号位,在区域联盟中完美匹配字母哥,因为他俩都能护框。
[–]Pistons XolorJZ 39 指標 1 天前
Guarding small ball lineups might be a little tricky with both of them out there
活塞球迷:要是碰上对方小个阵容,也许会有点棘手哦。
[–][MIL] Jabari Parker Jalinja 60 指標 1 天前
True but that's more of a Porzingis problem than a synergy problem. Giannis's defensive versatility is what got him DPOY.
雄鹿球迷:确实,可那也是铂金的问题,而不是适配的问题。字母哥能拿DPOY那是因为他的防守多样性。
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[–]Jazz babyyodavan 369 指標 1 天前
THJ is in shambles
爵士球迷:小哈达威瑟瑟发抖。
[–]Supersonics TrashBagMan1 131 指標 1 天前
THJ + picks/players for Jrue
超音速球迷:小哈达威加选秀签或球员去换霍乐迪吧
[–]Mavericks sleepehead 4 指標 1 天前
But if he opts out its not like they can trade him. It's really up to THJ to make the best choice for his future. Sign a long-term but slightly cheaper contract between 15-20million as a 3rd star or go for money and probably not have a chance at the playoffs. There's no wrong answer but he knows that he's not a #1 or a #2 on a good team
独行侠球迷:要是他跳出合同的话,那也就没咱啥事儿了。这真得看他自己作何选择。要么是留下做三当家,签下一份介于1500万到2000万之间的稍有折扣的长约,要么就冲钱去,那或许就没机会打季后赛了。怎么选都没问题,但他知道自己在一支强队不是主角。
[–][BRK] Brook Lopez dgarrad 208 指標 1 天前
I really don't want THJ to get traded I feel like he's so good on that team going forward.
篮网球迷:我真不希望小哈达威离开独行侠,感觉他在那儿打得越来越好了。
[–]opinionsarecoolmaaan 87 指標 1 天前
Yeah, I absolutely love THJ. His shot is incredible.
没错,我真心喜欢小哈达威,他的篮子很不错。
[–]76ers ImDurtiDan 22 指標 1 天前
I’ll take a Tim Hardaway Jr please
76人球迷:拜托,我愿意要小哈达威。
[–][DAL] Dwight Powell BuzzedBlood 38 指標 1 天前
You keep Tobias Harris and Al Horford’s contracts as far away from Dallas as possible mister
独行侠球迷:先生,麻烦你们的哈里斯和霍福德离达拉斯越远越好。
[–]Mavericks kenneth_chap 671 指標 1 天前
Bobi stays
独行侠球迷:博班留下!
[–]Warriors thelegendoff 167 指標 1 天前
I love Bobi. I would cry if he was a Warrior. I appreciate that y'all appreciate him.
勇士球迷:我爱博班,要是他来我勇,那我得乐死。得亏你们懂得珍惜他。
[–]Clippers Talentagentfriend 11 指標 1 天前
Every team hes been on wanted him to stay. I miss Bobi and Tobi
快船球迷:换任何队都希望他能留下。想念他和哈里斯搭档的日子。
[–]Mavericks allhailbarea 185 指標 1 天前
I more and more feel a trade for Oladipo coming. Risky, regarding injuries to Victor and KP, but the upside is high and the price probably reasonable.
独行侠球迷:我强烈感觉奥拉迪波要来。风险很大,毕竟他和铂金都是伤号,可上限很高啊,而且价钱应该也合理。
[–]UnderstandingThis 28 指標 1 天前
I don't think the upside is that high, Oladipo's 2017/2018 season is an outlier.
我不觉得奥拉迪波上限有多高,17/18赛季那是超常发挥。
[–]wadupbigfellayayahey 12 指標 1 天前
How can you say it was an outlier considering his run was ended by a major injury? It's not like the dude was amazing one year and suddenly sucked for no reason.
人家那波强势表现是被重伤扼杀的,你凭啥说他当时只是超常发挥?他又不是猛了一个赛季之后莫名其妙突然熄火。
[–]Lakers ih8reddit420 96 指標 1 天前
I've been wanting Seth Curry on the Lakers ever since the last free agency.
Mavs should hold onto him.
湖人球迷:自打上个自由市场开始,我就一直盼着小库里来我湖。
独行侠应该留住他。
[–]Vancouver Grizzlies thedarthvader17 16 指標 1 天前
That is definitely a very valuable contract.
灰熊球迷:他的合同那可太值钱咯。
[–]Mavericks ponderingexistence02 11 指標 1 天前
LEAVE CURRY ALONE!! I just got his jersey
独行侠球迷:别打小库里的注意!我刚买的他的球衣……
[–]Mavericks AtreusIsBack 10 指標 1 天前
Dragi? is a free agent now, they could pick him up if Miami doesn't want him. Him and Luka had incredible synergy in their 2017 Eurobasket championship run and I can't see them struggling on the floor together on the Mavs.
独行侠球迷:德拉季奇现在也是自由人啊,要是热火不要的话,独行侠可以捡个漏。他和东契奇参加17年欧锦赛那会儿打得很有默契啊,到了独行侠肯定也很搭。
[–]Mavericks 3pointerSLO 4 指標 1 天前
Miami wants Goran. And he wants to stay. Dallas would have to offer him much more to gain him.
独行侠球迷:热火想留德拉季奇的,而且他也愿意留。我们只有大幅溢价才能得到他。
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[–]Mavericks ThreeGuardLineups 47 指標 1 天前
Our assets are underrated - DFS, Kleber, Seth, and Brunson are all major positive value contracts, and we have the 18th pick and 31st pick on draft night to throw in as well. If you throw in THJ's $18mm, we can make a lot of different deals work.
独行侠球迷:我们的资产被低估了——芬尼-史密斯、克莱伯、小库里和布伦森全都是重量级的优质合同,而且我们手头还有今年的18号和31号签。要是在算是小哈达威1800万的合同,那咱们还能有好多不同的操作。
[–]ctorresc04 507 指標 1 天前
Worth keeping KP if they can manage to keep him healthy during the 2nd half of the season and postseason.
如果独行侠能想法让铂金在赛季下半程和季后赛让铂金保持健康的话,那他还是值得留下的。
[–]odinlubumeta 9 指標 1 天前
So was Bynum if he stayed healthy or Greg Oden. 7 foot tall people with bad injury histories don’t have a good track record. Mavs should not make him untouchable.
你这话放到拜纳姆和奥登身上也可以。这个有过重大伤病史的7尺大个健康状况向来不行。独行侠就不该拿他当非卖品。
[–]Lakers 056rza- 33 指標 1 天前
I don’t think that have ever happened once in his entire career
湖人球迷:我觉得吧,铂金整个职业生涯就没健康啥事儿。
[–]rNBA_Mods_Be_Better 322 指標 1 天前
Make KP the first player to only play home games. Gives him built-in even rest and allows him to stay home and rehab all season. Don't travel until the playoffs. This is the best way to get the rest of the team to resent you but hey it's gimmicky and I like gimmicks so
独行侠应该重点照顾铂金,只让他打主场比赛。整个赛季都让他边打边休,就留着打主场,季后赛之前就别掺和客场了。这是向队友们拉仇恨的最佳方式,可是呢,这动静太大了,我又喜欢看热闹,所以呢……
[–]Knicks Jimm120 50 指標 1 天前
this could work...if he wasn't the #2 on the team. If he was the 3rd star, then yeah, you can sit him and have Tim Hardaway go off as the 3rd star. But that's not the reality. You can't rely on Timmy to be your #2 when Porzingis sits.
尼克斯球迷:这招还真管用……前提是他不是球队二当家。如果他是三当家,那没事儿,可以让他歇着,让哈达威做第三攻击点起飞。可事实并不是这样啊,铂金休息的时候,不能指望哈达威当二当家。
[–]Remarkable-Community 30 指標 1 天前
I’m sure they could be persuaded to give up KP if the right player became available
要是有合适的球员流入市场,独行侠肯定会被说动,从而放弃铂金。
[–]Raptors EchoBay 288 指標 1 天前*
Id trade Porzingis too, to be honest. At his height with his injury history already? Risky proposition right there. Obviously you don't trade him for any semblance of pieces lesser than what he is now, but if you can trade up for someone better with him, talking other All Stars or Superstars, as the primary piece in a trade package than it might be worth it.
猛龙球迷:讲真,换我我也会交易铂金。这么个大个子就这么多伤病?这不就是定时炸弹嘛。当然了,不能拿他去换实力不如他的一堆杂牌拼图,但要是能换到比他更强的,比如说全明星或者超巨,那就值了。
[–]Lakers CyberGoatPsyOps 46 指標 1 天前
Nah, the chemistry is too good between KP and Luka, Cuban was watching the Clips and Lakers
湖人球迷:不,铂金和东契奇之间是很有默契的。库班对标的可是快船和我湖。
[–]Mavericks Riskyshot 35 指標 1 天前
Sketchy to trade him, Mark cuban was also told Steve Nash was injury prone and on his way out then he went on to win back to back MVP's
独行侠球迷:我觉得库班不会动他,毕竟当年库班听别人说纳什容易受伤就把他送走了,结果纳什MVP两连。
[–]jesusshuttlesworth82 8 指標 1 天前
There is no way he gets traded. If he has such an injury risk and a $150 million contract, why would another team trade for him and give up something valuable?
Mavs roll the dice with his health because that was the only way to get Luka a potential running mate right away.
铂金肯定是非卖品。如果他受伤风险真有那么大,又顶着一份1.5亿的大合同,那其他球队干嘛要放弃自身的宝贝来交易他啊?
独行侠就是在拿铂金的健康做赌注,因为这是短期得到东契奇潜在搭档的唯一方式。
[–]Mavericks imArsenals 34 指標 1 天前
I don't think we need to make a trade, personally. We were 4 games back from being a top 3 seed in the west as a bottom 5(?) team in the clutch in the regular season and a pretty slow start with KP having to get his groove back. With an additional year under our belt, hopefully better in the clutch, and hopefully some good luck in regards to injuries (Brunson, Powell) we could easily be a top 3 team in the west right now.
独行侠球迷:我个人觉得我们没必要做任何交易。我们从上赛季的倒数前五一下冲到离本赛季西部前三只差4个胜场,而且开局为了让铂金找感觉还很慢热。再来一个赛季,要是关键时刻能打得更好一点,没那么多伤病(布伦森和鲍威尔),那我们能轻松打进西部前三。
[–]Raptors TestedOnAnimals 11 指標 22小時前
People completely underrate the effect Powell had on the Mavs.
猛龙球迷:很多人完全小看了鲍威尔在独行侠的影响力。
[–]Spurs MeC0195 22 指標 1 天前
They're a good team, doing well. The two stars are still very young. For these two reasons, I think they really don't need to dismantle this team to win immediately. Keep the stars happy, try to improve things, but make it gradual. At least, gradual enough. The team has many good role players that fit well together, and some of them have still room to grow. Of course I'd be looking forward to success, but it's not a situation where you absolutely have to win right now.
I don't know, maybe this is the Spurs fan in me. I like building a project, not just make a short term roster.
马刺球迷:独行侠打得还是蛮不错的。两名球星还很年轻。就冲这两点,我觉得他们真的没必要急于一时而打散球队。就让球星们开心打球呗,争取有所提高,但这得慢慢来。独行侠拥有很多配合默契的优质角色球员,他们有些人仍然有成长空间。当然了,要是我的话也想要取得成功,可这还没到马上要结果的时候啊。
说不清楚,或许这是我这种刺蜜的一厢情愿吧。我喜欢长期布局,而不只是仓促搭班子。
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