【键盘侠】湖人等队有意罗斯|想看到他在争冠球队发挥余热！

2020-01-21 20:43:25 我乐直播 www.wolezhibo.com

[Haynes] Yahoo Sources: Los Angeles Lakers, Philadelphia 76ers among teams that have expressed interest in trading for Detroit Pistons star Derrick Rose.据NBA名记Chris Haynes报道，消息人士透露，湖人、76人等队有意通过交易得到活塞球星罗斯

[Haynes] Yahoo Sources: Los Angeles Lakers, Philadelphia 76ers among teams that have expressed interest in trading for Detroit Pistons star Derrick Rose.

据NBA名记Chris Haynes报道，消息人士透露，湖人、76人等队有意通过交易得到活塞球星罗斯。

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[–]76ers dleonard1122 567 指標 9小時前

What would we even give up?

76人球迷：那咱能放弃谁？

[–][BOS] Marcus Smart airmagswag 28 指標 9小時前

Thybulle Embiid and horford

凯尔特人球迷：塞布尔、恩比德和霍福德

[–]76ers _FroJo_ 451 指標 9小時前

Zhaire/picks. We have plenty of 2nds, thats usually what these midseason acquisitions cost

76人球迷：扎伊尔-史密斯和选秀签啊。我们有大把的二轮签，这一般都是用于赛季中期交易的

[–]76ers dleonard1122 24 指標 9小時前

I'll approve it

76人球迷：我同意

[–]Pistons pharaohs_pharynx 24 指標 8小時前

The pistons definitely won't...

活塞球迷：我们肯定不答应啊……

[–]Pistons XolorJZ 46 指標 9小時前

Damn so our best player’s worth nothing

活塞球迷：靠，所以是不把我们最好的球员当回事？

[–]Pistons pharaohs_pharynx 69 指標 8小時前

Fun fact: we're not making that deal. These 76er fans crazy man

活塞球迷：有意思的是，我们不会做这个买卖的。这帮76人蜜真是疯了

[–]Pistons MWiatrak2077 29 指標 8小時前

I love how they think we're just cool accepting total garbage for Rose. Like c'mon lmao, we're not taking late seconds for someone who could save your offense.

活塞球迷：他们居然觉得我们会接受那帮垃圾来换罗斯，真是秀逗了。拜托啊，罗斯可是能拯救76人进攻的人物，我们是不会接受那种末位二轮签的

[–]Wizards The_Last_Melon14 241 指標 9小時前

Man that’s a depressing haul. I guess if you gotta blow it up it’s better than nothing

奇才球迷：76人球迷那个方案真是不尊重人抢劫。你要是想搞砸交易，那干脆啥也不给呗。

[–]Knicks NovaKash 184 指標 8小時前*

For 5 months of a backup PG that's not a depressing haul at all. Teams don't usually shell out first-round picks for rentals of a bench player

尼克斯球迷：对于一个使用时间五个月的替补控卫来说，76人那筹码根本就不是抢劫啊。很多球队一般都不会为了租用一个板凳球员而送出首轮签吧。

[–]Timberwolves PFhelpmePlan 124 指標 7小時前

for rentals of a bench player

DRose ain't exactly your typical bench player.

森林狼球迷：“租用一个板凳球员”

罗斯还真不是你以为的板凳球员

[–]76ers DJToastyBuns 16 指標 4小時前

I've watched maybe 40 T Wolves games since jimmy. That's a steal for DRose, who really seems to have put it all together

76人球迷：巴特勒去森林狼过后，我看了大概40场森林狼比赛。要是能用扎伊尔-史密斯和二轮签换到罗斯，那真是赚了，他貌似真的找回感觉了。

[–]Spurs Bandwagon dandangles 35 指標 7小時前

They’ve been limiting his minutes until recently for some reason. He’s been starting at PG and the Pistons have been doing better with him starting. He played 34 mins today, he’s only 31.. I believe the man still has a ton of tank left and can handle starter minutes.

马刺球迷：因为某些原因，活塞之前一直都限制着罗斯的出场时间。他近期一直是打首发控卫，而且他首发之后，活塞的表现更好。他今天就打了34分钟啊，而且他才31……我相信他油箱里还有很多油，而且能够胜任首发。

[–]Timberwolves PFhelpmePlan 22 指標 7小時前

Sixers fan in here be like 'DRose is a bench player he's barely worth a late second .' Meanwhile DRose is a legit 6MOY candidate and could easily be starting if he could play 32-35 mins.

森林狼球迷：这里有些76人球迷说“罗斯就是个板凳球员，他也就一个末位二轮签”，可实际呢，要是罗斯能打上32-35分钟，那他真能成为最佳第六人的候选人，也能轻松挤进首发

[–]Business-is-Boomin 9 指標 7小時前

I don't question his worth, but with Simmons playing 40+ every night, I don't see the value in trading for him.

我倒是不质疑他的价值，不过西蒙斯每晚都打40多分钟了，不知道交易罗斯的价值在哪儿

[–]Lakers badpizzaisstillgood 89 指標 9小時前

I have an even better question, what would we even give up?

湖人球迷：我有个更好的问题，要是我湖想得到罗斯得送出谁？

[–]Lakers spyirl 158 指標 8小時前

NBA Champion, 4x all-star, 3x all-defense, 2x NBA finalist, 1x all-nba star guard Rajon Rondo.

湖人球迷：NBA冠军、4次入选全明星、三次入选赛季最佳防守阵、两次进入总决赛、一次全明星的后卫隆多！

[–]Pistons atucker1744 14 指標 5小時前

LeBron and AD for D Rose, take it or leave it

活塞球迷：拿老詹和戴维斯换罗斯，不然甭谈。

[–]Pistons ImTheOldManJenks 605 指標 9小時前

We’ll do it for LeBron. Seems fair to me.

活塞球迷：我们可以用罗斯换詹姆斯啊，我觉着挺合理的

[–]droseandmyfather 36 指標 8小時前

that’ll definitely fix all that skepticism i’ve been reading about Derricks on-court fit with Lebron

之前不是有文章说过罗斯在场上和老詹不搭嘛，这下肯定能解决所有的怀疑。

[–]NBA Seattle_Scones 323 指標 9小時前

MVP for an MVP.

这是MVP互换啊

[–]Raptors IWantRaceCar 74 指標 7小時前

1 mvp for 4 mvps. This would be the best trade in the history of trade deals, maybe ever. Believe me.

猛龙球迷：1个MVP换4个MVP。要真成了，那就是史上最精明交易了。

[–][GSW] Kevon Looney jakepdennis 20 指標 5小時前

If the lakers add a second rounder I think the pistons would accept possibly

勇士球迷：要是湖人再加个二轮签，那我觉得活塞会很快答应的。

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[–]Spurs thehumblebeast 112 指標 9小時前

I, too, have expressed interest in trading for Derrick Rose

马刺球迷：我个人也表达了希望通过交易得到罗斯的意愿！

[–]solbrand 401 指標 8小時前

We all need this. D Rose needs a ring.

咱们都想看到这笔交易。罗斯需要一枚戒指！

[–]Sircartier_24k 79 指標 8小時前*

Facts bro. As a fan it's been tough these past two seasons seeing him play great basketball again for losing teams. Seeing drose with a real shot at a title would be great.

And the last time he had a legitimate chance in the playoffs (2015) he was great in those bucks and cavs series

大实话啊老哥。作为球迷，看到他最近两个赛季在烂队再次打出了以前的高光，还挺难受的。要是罗斯能有真正的争冠机会那就太好了。

上次他真正有机会在季后赛杀出重围还是在2015年，当时他在面对雄鹿和骑士的系列赛里表现非常抢眼。

[–]EricKillMongerz 386 指標 8小時前

Kuz "Slim Shady" Kuzma coming soon to Detroit

“痞子”库兹马马上要去底特律咯！

[–]Teukkabasketball 148 指標 8小時前

This would be funny as hell

那可就太带劲儿了

[–]Bladex20 156 指標 9小時前

D Rose and Lebron 2.0?

罗斯和詹姆斯合作2.0？

[–]Wizards bonez288 12 指標 8小時前

If that works out it really will make it even more obvious how much of a mess Cleveland was that last year Lebron carried them

奇才球迷：要是他俩在一起真擦出了火花，那就更凸显出了，当初老詹最后一年扛着走的那支克利夫兰有多烂。

[–]I_heart_tight_vags69 2291 指標 9小時前

Imagine having DRose, Lebron, Rondo, and Dwight on the same team 8 years ago

试想一下，要是八年前罗斯、老詹、隆多和霍华德在一个队会是怎样

[–]Mavericks donte_divencenzo 137 指標 9小時前

75+ wins... add prime Bradley and boogie for fun

独行侠球迷：75胜往上啊……再加上巅峰布拉德利和考神图个乐

[–]NBA Guoldisney 98 指標 8小時前

Shit, totally forgot about boogie wtf.

靠，我特么都忘了湖人还有个考辛斯

[–]MJplayedmechanics 169 指標 9小時前

Collison would be a better fit for LA tbh

讲真，比起罗斯，科里森应该会更适合湖人

[–][LAC] Chris Paul nebmershaq 85 指標 9小時前

Agree, Collison is a better shooter and LeBron + Shooters is automatically good

快船球迷：同意，科里森是个更好的投手，而老詹搭投手一般都能成

[–]MJplayedmechanics 41 指標 9小時前

He's also really good at running PnR

而且科里森真的很擅长指挥挡拆

[–]Jazz CICERO9K 74 指標 9小時前

That's not a surefire thing though and some say Collison will only sign post trade deadline

爵士球迷：不过这事儿也不是十拿九稳啊，还有人说科里森只会在交易截止日之后签约

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram xElectricW 36 指標 8小時前

Maybe the FO has been in contact with him, I feel like if he’s actually coming back he’s just working himself back to game shape after being out for months

湖人球迷：或许我湖管理层一直在和科里森接触，我感觉他真的要复出，现在这会儿正努力恢复比赛身材，毕竟好几个月没打球了。

[–]Heat KniGht1st 17 指標 8小時前

Lakers have almost no asset to trade, they have to give up Kuz. Betting on Collison is risky, Clippers can land him too.

热火球迷：湖人追罗斯的话几乎没啥资本，不然就得放弃库兹马。赌科里森还是有风险，快船也能签下他。

[–]Lakers chad12341296 36 指標 9小時前

Lakers need someone who can actually score and get the ball to AD when Lebron is off the court, D Rose would do that better than Collison

湖人球迷：我湖需要的是那种能得分，而且在老詹下场时能给浓眉喂球的人，这样看的话，罗斯比科里森好些。

[–]kobmug_v2 62 指標 9小時前*

The Lakers are 34-8, any trade they're making right now is not for the regular season but for the playoffs therefore we should approach any trade evaluation with the assumption that LeBron is on the court for at least 42 minutes per game.

I am far more interested in a player who is capable of running things for the 6 minutes that LeBron sits and can help out in the 42 minutes he doesn't than I am in a player whose value is wholly concentrated in the 6 minutes LeBron sits. For that reason I like Collison better than Rose.

When I look for players to add you have to bring both shooting and plus defense to the table, Rose brings neither and the role he plays right now in Detroit will only be available for a maximum of 6 minutes per game in the playoffs.

湖人现在34胜8负，他们现在进行的任何交易都不是为了常规赛，而是季后赛，因此咱们在评估任何交易价值的时候，都得有个前提：老詹场均至少会出场42分钟。

比起一个只能在老詹下场的那6分钟打出全部价值的球员，我更感兴趣的，是那种那6分钟能有所作为、同时在另外42分钟也能帮老詹分担的球员，所以我更喜欢科里森。

我在考虑新援时，必须得把投射和防守加以考量，罗斯两者都没，至于说他现在在底特律扮演的角色，要是到了湖人，在季后赛他最多只有6分钟表现时间。

[–]Lakers chad12341296 23 指標 8小時前

You gotta consider though that Lebron has also flourished playing with guards that dominate the ball, Lebron has been perfectly fine with a "taking turns" kind of offense with Kyrie/DWade.

Having another elite ball handler to take advantage of an offense centered around spacing would open up a lot of options offensively and I think the team would be in much better shape on offense.

那你还得考虑的是，老詹在和那些支配球的后卫一起打球时，也能打得得心应手。老詹以前和欧文、韦德打那种“你打完我打”的进攻时，一直都很顺啊。

要是湖人场上再多一名顶级的持球人，那就能在进攻端增加多种选择，我觉得那样的湖人进攻时会强很多。

[–]kobmug_v2 27 指標 8小時前

The thing is Kyrie was a far better shooter than Rose, to the point that it's not even worth comparing.

As for Wade, in his first two years in Miami he was also a far better player than Rose is now and in his last two years when his decline began in earnest the Heat were often at their best without Wade on the court. LeBron + 4 shooters is what led the famous 2013 game 6 comeback with JVG openly wondering whether they should even play Wade at all in overtime.

If you're going to be a non-shooter next to LeBron you need to be like 2011 & 2012 Wade and Rose is not.

问题是欧文和老詹搭档时比现在的罗斯强太多了，甚至都没法比。

至于说韦德，他在迈阿密的头两年也比现在的罗斯强很多，最后两年他才真正开始下滑，他不在场时热火的进攻常常能打出最佳效果。老詹配四射才导致了13年那场著名的G6逆转，这才有了范甘迪公开质疑加时赛里韦德到底还有没有出场的必要。

如果想给老詹配一个非射手球员，那得是11、12年的韦德才行，现在的罗斯不行。

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[–]Garden_Gnome_Child 72 指標 9小時前

Imagine winning a ring with the team that he tore his ACL against.

要是罗斯去了那支当初他韧带撕裂那场比赛的对手球队，还夺冠了，那可就有意思了

[–]Lakers Lufs10 13 指標 7小時前

Realistically speaking, how high are Sixers chances against Bucks?

湖人球迷：实事求是地说啊，76人面对雄鹿有多高的胜算？

[–]Bucks OutsideTheServiceBox 22 指標 7小時前

If they meet us on equal footing and fully-healthy, very solid. I don’t know if I’d call them favorites, but I also wouldn’t say the Bucks are favored either. Philly was built to basically beat the Bucks. They long, their bigs can shoot, and they defend extremely well.

雄鹿球迷：要是他们能全员健康地和我们干，那胜算不小的。我会不会把他们看成是取胜热门不好说，不过我也不会觉得雄鹿是热门。76人这队基本就是为了打雄鹿而建的。他们有身高臂展，内线能投，防守也极强。

[–]Pistons salmon10 3 指標 6小時前

I love Rose, but he deserves to be on a contender. Lakers preferably. But please let him represent the Pistons in the Allstar game first

活塞球迷：我爱罗斯，不过他应该去一支争冠球队。更倾向是湖人吧。不过还是先让他代表活塞打全明星吧

[–]Bulls MakeDroseGreatAgain 103 指標 9小時前

Do not wanna see Rose and Lebron on the same team again fuck that

公牛球迷：我还不想再看到罗斯和詹姆斯在同一个队了，操蛋

[–]Venezuela ddottay 83 指標 9小時前

LeBron stans and Rose stans will be threatening to kill each other by the WCF

委内瑞拉球迷：罗斯要是去了湖人，那到了西决的时候，詹蜜和罗蜜怕是会恶语相向。

[–]Lakers spyirl 83 指標 8小時前

Why? Rose stans want Rose to get a ring.

湖人球迷：为啥啊？罗斯铁粉也希望他拿戒指啊

[–]Venezuela ddottay 19 指標 8小時前

Rose having the ball in his hands a lot less = less production from him which is a battle waiting to happen

委内瑞拉球迷：罗斯持球大量减少=输出减少，这不就是等着开喷嘛

[–][CHI] Taj Gibson black_asian 51 指標 8小時前

I'm sure rose will be leading the 2nd unit. not taking away the ball from lebron

公牛球迷：我相信罗斯要是去了湖人会带领第二阵容的，他又不会抢老詹球权。

[–]Bulls amity_ 15 指標 8小時前

It will still be hard to stomach for any bulls fan around during Rose years, when LeBron single handedly kept us from a title. But I do hope he gets one, even better if he's a significant contributor. When he went to Cleveland he was still struggling and a lot of us thought he was ring chasing.

公牛球迷：当初罗斯在公牛的时候，老詹一己之力让我们无缘总决赛，这对公牛球迷来说仍然是无法释怀的。不过我真的希望罗斯拿个冠军，要是他能做出重要贡献，那就更好了。之前他去克利夫兰打得很艰难，我们很多人还觉得他是去蹭冠的。

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