【键盘侠】浓眉40+场次多于三名宿之和|向司机狼王邓肯看齐！
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Anthony Davis has more 40-point games than Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowitzki and Tim Duncan in their careers, combined.
So far, Anthony Davis has 30 40-point games in 466 games. Nowitzki, Garnett and Duncan combine for 29 40-point games, with KG having 4, Dirk having 20 and Duncan having 5. Of course you can argue pace may be different etc, but this is still pretty amazing by AD.
安东尼-戴维斯到目前为止得分上40的场次比加内特、诺维茨基和邓肯三人整个职业生涯加起来的40+次数还多。
迄今为止，戴维斯在联盟征战466场比赛，有30次得分上40。诺维茨基、加内特和邓肯加起来的40+场次是29场，分别是加内特4次、诺维茨基20次和邓肯的5次。当然了，你可以解释说过去和现在的比赛节奏不一样等等，可是AD这个统计还是相当亮眼的。
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[–]NBA Mygaffer 94 points 1 day ago
I'd still take any of those guys over AD.
我依然觉得那三个老家伙都比戴维斯强。
[–]Knicks Melkor_The_Morgoth 117 points 1 day ago
Wow, you'd take the first ballot hall of famers over a 26 year old who hasn't hit his prime yet? Spicy hot take
尼克斯球迷：哟，你拿第一轮投票就能入选名人堂的人和一个26岁还没进入巅峰的球员比？真是敢说哦
[–]Celtics nepatriots32 20 points 1 day ago
I'd probably take any of those guys over any other PF period.
凯尔特人球迷：要我看，也许那三个传奇比现今任何大前锋都强。
[–]Pelicans CorporealTom 24 points 1 day ago
I think I'd take AD. All these guys are in their 40s now and I think they've lost a step.
鹈鹕球迷：那我觉得还是戴维斯更厉害，毕竟那三个老家伙现在都40多了，跑不动了吧……
[–]tiredmeatstick 40 points 2 days ago
Good player on a bad team at the time
好球员当年一度在烂队待着。
[–]Lakers b1indsamurai 102 points 2 days ago
Are you talking about KG for the majority of his career?
湖人球迷：你是指加内特的大部分职业生涯吗？
[–][MIN] Fred Hoiberg Infin1tySlay3r 53 points 2 days ago
Lol to be fair KG took the Wolves to the WCF, something AD has yet to do as the man
森林狼球迷：哈哈哈，要讲事实啊，加内特可是把森林狼带进过西决的，这是戴维斯作为球队头牌还没做到的。
[–]Warriors BobMeijers 1188 points 2 days ago
it would be more impressive if he had 40 more points than all of them in their careers combined buddy
勇士球迷：要是戴维斯生涯总得分加起来比那三人还多40分，那就更加好看了。
[–]Nets theToBeHonestGuy[S] 944 points 2 days ago
he has fewer brows than every single one, that should be enough
篮网球迷：他的眉毛比他们仨都少，这该够好看了吧
[–][NOP] Jrue Holiday Cheeseish 348 points 2 days ago
Fewer brows than all three COMBINED. That’s crazy.
鹈鹕球迷：眉毛比邓肯他们三加起来还少。了不起哦
[–][MIL] Frank Brickowski gottagetpastit 176 points 1 day ago
Lowest brows per eye in league history, by far.
Well actually Charlie Villanueva might beat him there.
雄鹿球迷：那怕是联盟迄今为止眼均眉毛最少的。
好吧，实际上呢，也许维拉诺瓦更少。
[–]Warriors BobMeijers 21 points 2 days ago
how crazy would KG look if he shaved his eyebrows
勇士球迷：要是加内特把眉毛刮了，那得有多刺激。
[–]chanchan05 15 points 1 day ago
If he lost one tooth, particularly an incisor, while he's at it, the brows won't be noticed.
要是他掉了一颗牙，尤其是大门牙的话，那他在场上就没人注意他刮眉了。
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[–]cuen3m 316 points 1 day ago
You managed to trigger 3 fanbases with this post lmao
楼主这是想用这个帖子惹毛三个球迷群体啊，哈哈哈
[–]Lakers Donaldtrumpet6543 101 points 1 day ago
Judging by the comments, it looks like it triggered more than 3 lol
湖人球迷：就从评论来看，貌似不止三方啊
[–]Bucks Not_Jabri_Parker 91 points 1 day ago
Just a list:
Celtics: Because Lakers player good and the attack of KG
Mavericks: Attack on Dirk
Spurs: Attack on Tim
Pelicans: AD is mentioned
Clippers: Lakers player is good
And that one Warrior fan at the bottom and I can’t fathom why he is angry
Edit: Ugh on mobile cant format properly
Edit 2: Got it
雄鹿球迷：列个清单就是：
凯尔特人：因为楼主暗指湖人球员厉害，而且疑似贬KG
独行侠：疑似踩德克
马刺：疑似踩邓肯
鹈鹕：提到戴维斯了
快船：暗指湖人球员厉害
下面有个勇士球迷我也搞不清楚他为毛不爽。
[–][MIN] Nikola Pekovic Opie59 42 points 1 day ago
Wolves: Attack on their undisputed GOAT/first Hall of Famer*/arguably the best basketball player in Minnesota history
森林狼球迷：森林狼：踩他们队史无可争议的最佳同时也是首个名人堂成员。
[–]Snoyarc 72 points 1 day ago
AD has been on a team where he is more or less the sole offense his whole career.
就戴维斯的职业生涯来说，他基本就一人包揽球队的进攻。
[–]andyzaltzman1 51 points 1 day ago
So just like KG and Dirk?
这不就是和加内特、德克一样吗？
[–]Mavericks mrubni 152 points 2 days ago
When Dirk was the age AD is now, he already had three 40 point playoff games. AD has one.
独行侠球迷：德克在戴维斯这个年纪的时候，他已经有三场季后赛40+了，戴维斯只有一场。
[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Snackoff 137 points 2 days ago
Dirk is one of the best playoff scorers ever. No doubt about that.
湖人球迷：德克是季后赛史上最强得分手之一，没毛病。
[–]Timberwolves nomoremistericeguy 19 points 1 day ago
Yeah, AD will probably pass that next season.
森林狼球迷：没错，而戴维斯也许下赛季就能超越他的季后赛40+场次。
[–]76ers Sixers14 250 points 2 days ago
Nowitzki have more playoff series wins than ad playoff games wins
76人球迷：诺维茨基拿下系列赛的次数比戴维斯的季后赛胜场还多。
[–]Nets Bigbadbuck 88 points 1 day ago
Yeah we know that. This is to show how great of a scorer davis is tho
篮网球迷：这个大家都知道，可是这也说明了戴维斯得分能力的强大。
[–]YareSekiro 95 points 1 day ago
AD averaged 30 points in all of his 13 career playoff games. The other person did that was Michael Jordan. I am not gonna hold it against him.
戴维斯生涯至今13场季后赛场均30，另一个做到的人是乔丹。戴维斯喷不了。
[–]Celtics shooty_hoops 53 points 1 day ago
9 of those were against the Warriors too!
凯尔特人球迷：其中还有9场是打勇士！
[–]NBA RareSir 32 points 1 day ago
I’m not sure if these people are being sensitive or just totally inept. This thread has devolved into a shit on AD thread because these idiots think that OP is implying that AD is better than Dirk/TD/KG
我不知道有些人是过于敏感还是无能。这个帖子已经演变成了黑戴维斯的帖子，因为这帮蠢货以为楼主在暗示戴维斯比德克、邓肯和加内特厉害。
[–]Lakers yoza146 28 points 1 day ago
It’s funny how this sub loves talking shut about Dell Demps and the pelicans situation pre Griffin but also talk shit about Davis playoff success so far into his young career.
湖人球迷：这个专区很喜欢喷大卫-格里芬入住之前的邓普斯和鹈鹕，可是呢，又喜欢针对戴维斯这么短暂的职业生涯的季后赛成绩，真是有意思。
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[–]Supersonics thelivingmyth 3901 points 1 day ago
Now AD needs to work on getting some 80 point games.
超音速球迷：现在戴维斯得努力争取一些单场80分的比赛了。
[–]Knicks Tangerine_Speedos 56 points 1 day ago
Get Jalen Rose out of retirement
尼克斯球迷：赶紧让杰伦-罗斯复出。
[–][DAL] Dirk Nowitzki maverick1470 7153 points 1 day ago4
Or some 80 game seasons
独行侠球迷：或者他能单赛季出战80场也行啊。
[–]Raptors BrownMofo 1281 points 1 day ago
damn son
猛龙球迷：你这熊孩子。
[–][SAC] De'Aaron Fox jitterbug726 195 points 1 day ago
Oof
国王球迷：扎心了。
[–]76ers DrewFlan 72 points 1 day ago
He’s missed less time than Kawhi, even if you take out the season Kawhi only played 9 games.
76人球迷：戴维斯缺阵的时间还没小卡多，即便你把小卡只打9场比赛的那个赛季剔除在外也是一样。
[–]Pacers Drak_is_Right 681 points 1 day ago
KG, Dirk, and Duncan: 7 titles combined with another 3 finals appearances. 296 playoff wins.
AD: 2 playoff appearances, 1 1st round series win, 5 total playoff wins.
步行者球迷：加内特、德克和邓肯加起来：7个冠军，还有三次总决赛，296场季后赛胜利。
戴维斯：2次进入季后赛，1次突破首轮，5场季后赛胜利。
[–]papiman3 83 points 1 day ago
Kinda helps when your teammates are Paul Pierce+ Ray Allen or Manu+TP versus Omer Asik+Salomon Hill
当你的队友是皮尔斯+雷-阿伦或者吉诺比利+帕克，而不是阿西克+所罗门-希尔的时候，那还是有点用的。
[–]Lakers jelloisjigglin 244 points 1 day ago
Are we forgetting that Kevin Garnett couldn't get out of the first round for like the first ten years of his career?
湖人球迷：加内特貌似职业生涯头十年都没能突破首轮吧，咱们都忘了这茬吗？
[–][DET] Ben Wallace Fatman10666 48 points 1 day ago
Shhhhh that doesnt fit the narrative
活塞球迷：哎，这可就打脸了。
[–]ExpeditiousTraveler 224 points 1 day ago
KG didn’t win his first playoff series until Year 9.
加内特进入NBA的第9年才首次取得系列赛胜利。
[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant xCmagz 197 points 1 day ago
You think these guys watched basketball back then? Lmao
湖人球迷：你以为现在这些粉当时看比赛了吗？哈哈
[–]Lakers jelloisjigglin 78 points 1 day ago
I mean it's painfully obvious how young this sub is when you read some of the opinions.
I was a fucking KG fanatic when I was a kid. Had posters of him on my walls, then I fucking hated him when he got traded to Boston, haha.
湖人球迷：我觉得吧，有些评论显然会让你感慨这个专区的低龄化。
我还小的时候很特么迷恋加内特，家里墙上还有他的海报，后面他去了波士顿之后，我尼玛恨死他了。
[–]Bucks sourdieselfuel 31 points 1 day ago
He had pretty shit teams around him, and the Joe Smith fiasco didn't help.
雄鹿球迷：当年的森林狼还是很菜的，乔-史密斯事件太伤了。
[–]Lakers jelloisjigglin 91 points 1 day ago
That's my point.
AD not winning a title to this point isn't his fault. Nor was KG's lack of success his fault. They've both played for awful organizations up to this point.
湖人球迷：我也是这个意思啊。戴维斯到现在还没拿过冠军，错不在他，就像加内特当年不够成功也没错一样。他俩一度都在为鱼腩球队效力。
[–]Helac3lls 90 points 1 day ago
Cool KG never won anything without the help of two other All-Stars and both him and Dirk needed 13 seasons to win their first. Obviously Duncan is above them all and Dirk still had plenty of success in a tough Western Conference with much less help in than Duncan had but KG had 3 straight lottery seasons before the boston trade. Again is that KG's fault? Not really. Is the lack of help in NO AD's fault?
没有另外两位全明星的帮助，加内特是拿不到冠军的，德克更是花了13个赛季才拿到首个冠军。很显然，邓肯的成就在他俩之上，而德克在帮手远比不上邓肯的情况下，在竞争激烈的西部还是相当成功的。可是加内特在去波士顿之前，连着三个赛季球队都是乐透战绩。又说了，这是加内特的错吗？还真不是。难道鹈鹕缺少帮手就是戴维斯的错了吗?
[–]Mavericks shrabanbaishnab 76 points 1 day ago
Dirk led his team to a 5th seed in his 3rd year and 4th in his 4th, a finals in his 8th season. AD is about to enter his 8th season riding the coattails of lebron
独行侠球迷：在进入联盟的第三个赛季，德克率队拿到西部第五，第四个赛季拿到西部第四，然后在第八个赛季进入了总决赛。戴维斯这都要进入第8个赛季了，还得沾詹姆斯的光。
[–]LDC99 62 points 1 day ago
You know it wasn't just Dirk those few years right, he had arguably a top 5 PG of all time in Steve Nash. But that finals appearance was all him though
小牛那几年不是只有德克吧，他身边可是有历史前五的控卫纳什啊，不过那次总决赛还是德克一人扛起来的。
[–]ItsCrackItGetsUHigh 48 points 1 day ago
The hate is strong in this one. You haven’t even gotten to see AD and LeBron play a single minute together for the Lakers, but you’re already writing it off as “riding LeBron’s coattails”?
有些人为了黑而黑。你都还没看到戴维斯和詹姆斯一起为湖人打过一分钟的球，可是你已经笃定他要“沾詹姆斯的光”了？
[–]Pacers TheSloppyJanitor 401 points 1 day ago
What’s the conversion rate for Titles to 40 point games
步行者球迷：40+场次到冠军的转化率是多少？
[–]Lakers EvilNinjaX24 695 points 1 day ago
Ask Harden.
湖人球迷：这得问哈登。
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[–]Celtics OverallPrettyGood 2153 points 1 day ago
Dirk is crazy to me, but KG/Duncan weren’t primarily about scoring
凯尔特人球迷：我觉得德克的40+场次还是挺意外的，不过加内特和邓肯当时也不是以得分为主。
[–]Cavaliers OneEyedBobby9 36 points 1 day ago
Lol guess you just started watching KG when he joined Boston and not his Minny years averaging 21+ ppg from 98-07
骑士球迷：哈哈哈，我猜你是在KG去了凯尔特人之后才开始看他打球的吧，他98到07年在森林狼的时候场均21分往上啊。
[–]Raptors The-Pharcyde 22 points 1 day ago
Surprised KG didnt have way more. I know he was more of an all rounder but he had to do some heavy lifting for his teams back then.
猛龙球迷：加内特的40+场次居然只有这么点。我知道他当年很全面，可是他那会儿都是挑重担啊。
[–]Timberwolves roybringus 82 points 1 day ago
KG was a defensive god and could score at a ridiculously efficient level but he wasn’t a big volume scorer
森林狼球迷：KG当年是防守大神啊，还能极为高效地得分，可是他不是那种爆点得分手。
[–]Raptors Fudgicles1 23 points 1 day ago
One of the only players to win both DPOY and MVP, I want AD to reach that level hopefully.
猛龙球迷：他是少数几个既能拿年度最佳防守球员又能当选MVP的球员之一，我希望戴维斯能达到那个水准。
[–]Celtics OverallPrettyGood 24 points 1 day ago
Yeah Duncan was also a 20+ ppg scorer in his prime. Didn’t say they weren’t good scorers, but their scoring wasn’t what made them superstars.
凯尔特人球迷：是啊，邓肯在巅峰期也是个均分20+的得分手。这倒不是说他和加内特不是优秀的得分手，可是奠定他们超巨地位的不是得分。
[–]Lakers kyukfan05 550 points 1 day ago
I mean KG and Duncan are 17th and 14th on the all time scoring list respectively.
湖人球迷：加内特和邓肯的总得分可是分别排在历史第17和第14的。
[–][SAS] Mike D'Antoni The98Legend 664 points 1 day ago
That has more to do with them being consistent for a long time than it does with them being prolific scorers
马刺球迷：这更多地还是与他们能够长期保持状态有关，而不是说他们是高产得分手。
[–][BOS] Kelly Olynyk Slayer_Of_Anubis 381 points 1 day ago
KG gave us a consistent 18 a game but only hit 30 once
凯尔特人球迷：加内特在波士顿的时候场均能有18分，可是只有一次突破30.
[–]wylin247 29 points 1 day ago
That was his role though, kg was capable of putting 25+ every night if needed.
不过那就是他当时的角色定位啊，如果有必要的话，他具备场均25+的能力
[–]NoJustNo_93 276 points 1 day ago
Damn that kinda fucked me up for a second. He only scored 30 once as a Celtic? I guess it makes sense but still seems so weird to me.
靠，这特么一度把我搞懵逼了。他在凯尔特人只拿过一次30+？我猜这也说得过去，可还是觉得有点怪。
[–][DAL] Dirk Nowitzki chanaandeler_bong 84 points 1 day ago
All 3 guys OP mentioned were efficient scorers. This is a cool stat, but it doesn't really surprise me.
独行侠球迷：那三个老家伙都是高效的得分手。楼主列的这个数据很有意思，不过我真不觉得奇怪。
[–]youcandoit34 36 points 1 day ago
I don't see how it's that surprising. 2008 was like his 13th year and he was on the decline. He just got worse after his first season in Boston, but Boson was his last shot at a ring while he had a bit left in the tank. He was nowhere near Minnesota KG everyone remembers, but still very good to be a 3rd for the team.
Boston KG was not a guy you could count on for 30 in a night.
有啥好奇怪的呢。08年貌似是加内特进入联盟的第13个赛季，他当时已经开始下滑，在波士顿打了一个赛季之后更不如以前了，可是波士顿是他争冠的最后机会，而他当时邮箱里还有点油。他当时已经远非那个大家记忆中的狼王了，可是作为球队的第三进攻点，还是很强的。
你不能指望凯尔特人的加内特得分破30.
[–]Spurs SnuggleMuffin42 435 points 1 day ago
It's also about playing for a winning or losing teams.
With KG it's more surprising (because he was the sole focus on many Wolves years), but Duncan and Dirk were parts of teams that were strong all around. In those kinds of teams explosions of 40+ are less likely than unhealthy teams that rely almost exclusively on their superstar for scoring.
Also, another major fact is that all 3 played in one of the slowest paced seasons in the game. In the recent 4-5 years the league has accelerated like crazy (especially the last 2 seasons). All counting stats went way up for all players.
马刺球迷：楼主列出的那个数据与球队的好坏也有关系。
就KG来说，更让人意外一些（因为他在森林狼那么多年都是队里的唯一的主攻点），可是邓肯和诺维茨基的球队整体实力还是很强的。比起那些几乎只依赖于某个超巨得分的病态球队，想在那些强队里得40+的可能性要小一些。
再有，另一个因素是，他们仨当时所处的时期联盟比赛节奏很慢。近四五年联盟大幅增速（尤其是过去两个赛季）。球员们的各项数据统计都直线上升。
[–]Spurs Neutral_Meat 253 points 1 day ago
If you look at the Timmy's top 40 scoring games, the Spurs actually lost more than they won. If Duncan got 40 something was probably wrong with the team.
马刺球迷：你看看邓肯得分过40的那些比赛，马刺实际上是负多胜少。如果邓肯得到40分，那球队也许出问题了。
[–]Rusty Rigs 58 points 1 day ago
Exactly, I'm no where near a spurs fan but if the team was playing well it was in their best interest for everyone to stick to their roles and have a balanced offensive effort. Timmy was great at efficiency, I'm sure he could've put up more if he forced it but he was part of a team that created the best looks for the most open player.
就是，我从来就不喜欢马刺，可是如果马刺打得好，那肯定是人人各司其职，进攻输出非常平衡。邓肯的效率是很高的，我相信他具备得高分的能力，可是他为会球队空位最大的球员创造最佳的出手机会。
[–]kings layer9224 71 points 1 day ago
People dont remember or just didnt watch Tim Duncan in 2003. It's one of the all time best seasons from anyone IMO. He won that title by himself that year. He was everything on that team. He had the least help of anyone during a title winning season of anyone I can remember
你们是不记得还是没有看邓肯在03年的比赛啊。我觉得那是联盟史上最佳个人赛季表现之一。他当年是一己之力带队夺冠的，他既当爹又当妈。就以我的记忆来看，所有带队夺冠的球星中，那年的邓肯是身边帮手最少的。
[–]Mavericks neonmoon1 958 points 1 day ago
dirk was like a guaranteed 25 points on great efficiency
独行侠球迷：德克也很高效，当年场均25分妥妥的。
[–]nutsygenius 497 points 1 day ago
You know what people are saying with Steph's gravity off the ball? Dirk has that in terms of his spacing and by just trying to post someone up, already getting doubled teamed even if he still doesn't have the ball lol
你知道大家怎么说库里无球时的吸引力的吧？德克在场上跑位甚至是尝试着背打就能有这种效果，哪怕他没拿到球呢，对手已经上包夹了，哈哈哈
[–]Bulls bjankles 398 points 1 day ago
Not to mention he was the greatest pick and pop player ever. He defined the modern power forward position. With Dirk you didn’t have to play small to get insane spacing and pull bigs away from the rim.
公牛球迷：何况他还是最强的挡拆外切球员。他定义了现代篮球的大前锋位置。要是有德克，你就没必要通过打小球来扯出空当，也没必要让大个子远离篮下。
[–]Mavericks ToxicWasteMutation 109 points 1 day ago
I'm so glad people are now talking about Dirk and giving him recognition . His game was so beautiful and crafty it was insane. I'm hoping a lot of that spirit rubbed off on Luka as well.
独行侠球迷：看到大家这么认可德克我很欣慰啊。他打球很好看，而且技巧性很高。希望东契奇能继承他的某些品质。
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