【键盘侠】哈登近7场均分约40|MVP候选人应该算他一个

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James Harden is averaging 39.8 PPG over his last 7 games.

詹姆斯-哈登过去7场比赛场均得分39.8。

Dude is on some Kobe shit. 40 ppg over a 7 game stretch is insane. Harden should be front runner for MVP. Rockets are also 7-1 in their last 8 games. Harden is carrying this team.

这哥们儿的状态有点像科比啊。连续7场比赛场均得分40这是真的疯。哈登应该领跑MVP争夺战的。火箭过去八场比赛也是7胜1负，而撑起全队的人正是哈登。

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[–]Rockets whospepesilvia 422 points 8 hours ago

Harden is playing out of his mind right now.

火箭球迷：哈登目前是打疯了。

[–]Knicks slyguy183 81 points 7 hours ago

I love that he took 3 midrange jumpers too. Finally mixing it up enough to keep defenders guessing even more. When he stepped back on the midrange, it created an insane amount of separation because literally no one is expecting him to go midrange.

尼克斯球迷：他还有3个中距离跳投，这点我很喜欢。他终于混合使用技能包了，这就让对方的防守人难以捉摸。当他在中距离后撤步时 ，这就创造了出了大量的空间。因为基本没人想到他会在中距离出手。

[–]Lakers gumarik 143 points 8 hours ago

He is unguardable, impossible to defend. You think you know what he is going to do but still he just gets it done.

湖人球迷：他真是没法防，防不住啊。你觉得你知道他要做什么，可他还是能得分。

[–]Bulls ctwoods916 243 points 8 hours ago

he was 15/35 from the field lmao i get the sentiment but let’s not act like he was just scoring at will all game

公牛球迷：他35中15，哈哈哈。我知道现在大家很捧他，可也不要搞得像他整场比赛都能予取予求一样啊。

[–][HOU] Trevor Ariza -Nooope 81 points 8 hours ago

42% is nothing to turn your nose up at lol... league avg is like .450

火箭球迷：42%的命中率都是入不了你的眼的，哈哈哈……联盟平均水准怕是有45%。

[–]Bulls ctwoods916 94 points 7 hours ago

not saying he’s not the league’s best scorer... but saying he’s “unguardable” and “impossible to defend” after a game with 20 misses and shooting below league average seems a little disingenuous lol

公牛球迷：不是说他不是联盟最佳得分手……可是他一场比赛投丢了20球，而且命中率低于联盟平均水准，还说什么他“没法防”、“防不住”，这就有点不实在了吧。

[–]brianscalabrainey 78 points 7 hours ago

I mean...people said the same thing about Kobe

我觉得吧……大家以前也是这么说科比的啊。

[–]Rockets AyyyyyyyLemao 126 points 8 hours ago

He is the only one that can generate offense on this team. Also he’s shooting around 61%TS this season

火箭球迷：他是火箭队里唯一能发起进攻的人。而且他这个赛季的真实命中率大概有61%。

[–]LeSmithLoL 88 points9 hours ago

Its literally just him carrying too

确实是只有他在撑着火箭。

[–]yoyowatup 60 points 9 hours ago

I mean no. Capela was amazing, rivers was clutch down the stretch. Their defense was great. Just because he takes most of their shots

doesn’t mean he’s carrying. He shot 35 times to get 40.

我觉得不是。卡佩拉也很闪耀啊，里弗斯在最后阶段也很给力。球队的防守也是可以的。他出手最多可不代表他在撑着全队。他可是投了35次才得到40分的。

[–][CLE] LeBron James SunnytheFlameKing 16 points 8 hours ago

he made some of those 3s seem so easy, i didnt even realize he shot 35 (!!!) times much less 20 lmao

骑士球迷：他的有些三分看着轻而易举啊，我甚至都没感觉到他出手35次，更别说投丢20次了，哈哈哈

[–]Rockets thestoryofcalvin 19 points 7 hours ago

people are always finding a way to hate on harden. truth is, hes playing like one of the best offensive players ever and has been a crazy force on offense for a while

火箭球迷：大家总是能找到哈登的黑点。可事实是，现在的他打出了史上顶尖进攻球员的水准，而且已经很长时间在进攻上保持着爆炸输出了。

[–]Bulls monolith17 10 points 9 hours ago

BuT dOeS hE aVeRaGe TrIpLe DoUBlEs?

公牛球迷：有人会喷了：“可是他场均能拿到三双吗？”

[–]datdendai2 148 points 9 hours ago*

People are so ready to call PG an MVP candidate but Harden is out of the question? Lol

大家都把乔治当MVP候选人了，可是哈登还是没得谈吗？真是呵呵了。

[–]Supersonics neongem 75 points 9 hours ago

If Harden can keep Houston afloat with CP3 out he'll definitely be in strong consideration by the end of the regular season.

超音速球迷：如果哈登在保罗缺阵的情况下让休斯顿跟上大部队，那他在常规赛末期肯定会被视作是MVP的有力竞争者。

[–]94savage 24 points 8 hours ago

I've been calling Harden as a top 3 MVP candidate since October. Especially the way CP3 and Eric Gordon have crapped the bed.

If PG regressed, the Bucks and Raptors don't separate from each other and Giannis falls off, I think it could happen

从10月起，我就说哈登是MVP前3人选，特别是在保罗和戈登伤病不断的情形下。

如果乔治没能延续现在的强势，而且雄鹿与猛龙又拉不开差距，且字母哥表现失色的话，我觉得哈登能拿MVP。

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[–]Celtics Bostonsportsfan15 498 points 8 hours ago

Dude is on some 2017-18 mvp James Harden shit

凯尔特人球迷：这哥们儿打出了点17/18赛季那个哈登的状态啊。

[–]Pistons throwaway_5256 375 points 6 hours ago

Vintage classic Harden. I remember when he dropped 41 on Christmas like it happened 2 hours ago

活塞球迷：复古经典款哈登。我记得他在圣诞大战上拿下41分就像是在两小时之前一样。

[–][HOU] James Harden ThePhunkyPharaoh 90 points 6 hours ago*

I remember when he dropped 53/16/17 on New Year’s Eve

火箭球迷：我还记得他在新年夜的53分16板17助呢。

[–]EnvironmentalTwister 230 points 8 hours ago

LOL okc didn't keep him due to the luxury tax

哈哈哈，雷霆因为奢侈税没有留下哈登。

[–]Rockets splanket 82 points 6 hours ago

*1.5M a year

火箭球迷：还就150万一年。

[–]Thunder Gamerguy_141297 99 points 7 hours ago

Stahp we're already dead

雷霆球迷：别说了，我们已经凉了。

[–][SEA] Kevin Durant AltChronic 28 points 3 hours ago

You don’t know what pain is

西雅图球迷：你们还不知道痛啊。

[–]Spurs Iblaka 368 points 8 hours ago

Today showed that despite how much flack he gets for his FTs, the guy is still one of the league’s premier scorers. He didnt shoot as much FTs but still racked up a stuffy 41

马刺球迷：今天的比赛说明了，尽管哈登因为罚球多而没少被喷，但他仍然是联盟最顶尖的得分手之一。他今天可没有多少罚篮，但是仍然扎实地砍下了41分。

[–]Celtics LimousineTint 239 points 7 hours ago

Anyone who’s ever said Harden is only good because of refs and free throws either doesn’t watch the games or is blindly hating.

凯尔特人球迷：那些说哈登就靠罚球和裁判所以才厉害的人，要么是没看比赛，要么是乱喷。

[–]Pistons throwaway_5256 27 points 6 hours ago

I'm genuinely curious if the people who say they dont enjoy watching him say the same thing about other players. Embiid has shot more free throws, KD and Giannis average about the same attempts per game. I get that he has a few games where he's looking for fouls way too much but every star has those games and dont get nearly as much flack about it.

Imo he's like Westbrook, 10-20% of the time you say what the fuck, the other 80-90% is fun as hell

活塞球迷：那些说不喜欢看哈登打球的人会不会也这么说其他人呢，我真的好奇。恩比德的罚球还要多谢，而杜兰特和字母哥的场均出手也不比哈登少。我知道，哈登有些比赛故意找哨子的次数多了些，但是每个球星都会这样，因此受到的批评却远远不及哈登。

我觉得他就像威少，大部分时间是个逗比，小部分时间你会觉得卧了个槽。

[–]Spurs Get_Slapped 73 points 7 hours ago

I don't think he is only good because of the refs, I just think he can play well without them as well but usually gets a little help from them. I personally don't like the fact that he tries to draw excessive contact when he can easily use his size and strength instead.

马刺球迷：我不觉得哈登的优秀是因为裁判，我就认为他也可以不靠裁判打出精彩表现，只是他通常会从裁判那边得到些小恩小惠。就我个人来说，我不喜欢他过度找对方的身体接触，毕竟他可以轻松利用自己的体型和力量。

[–]Spurs IAmYourTopGuy 31 points 6 hours ago

It screws him over in the playoffs too when the calls are less frequent. He should just power through some people because he’s good enough to, but he tries to draw the foul instead.

马刺球迷：这在季后赛就会让他吃苦头，毕竟那时的哨子就没这么频了。他应该用实力生吃某些对手，因为他足够出色，可是有时候他却想着造犯规。

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[–]Trail Blazers harshaw151 1077 points 8 hours ago

I agree. Shout out to Capela as well though, absolute beast on the boards.

开拓者球迷：我同意。不过也要向卡佩拉致敬啊，这货绝对是篮板怪兽。

[–]Celtics goofygoober2 376 points 8 hours ago

he took Steven Adams lunch money today

凯尔特人球迷：他今天让亚当斯吃瘪了。

[–]Wizards livefreeordont 115 points 6 hours ago

Took Gobert’s in the playoffs too. He’s way underpaid

奇才球迷：季后赛中也没让戈贝尔吃到好果子啊。他赚的太少了。

[–]Rockets The_Rejected_Stone 27 points 4 hours ago

He just got like 80 million

火箭球迷：他可是才拿到8000万美金啊。

[–]Rockets successadult 57 points 5 hours ago

And made KAT invisible for most of the Wolves series. Nurkic gives Clint trouble though.

火箭球迷：而且在面对森林狼的大部分比赛中，他都让唐斯消失了。不过约基奇还是降得住卡佩拉。

[–]Rockets splanket 116 points 6 hours ago

We always said if capela could just get his stamina up he'd be a force. He's finally done it. Went from 27.5 mpg last year to 33.7 this year while keeping basically the same per36 numbers. Really impressive.

火箭球迷：我们总是说，如果卡佩拉的体能加强的话，他会成为一股强大力量。他终于做到了。从上赛季场均出场27.5分钟到本赛季场均33.7分钟，而且每36分钟的数据基本不变，真的让人眼前一亮。

[–]BigBootystrap 18 points 6 hours ago

Haven't been paying much attention, is he doing better in the last stretch of games? IIRC get wasn't doing too hot at the beginning of the season

没太关注他，他在比赛末段的表现有提高吗？如果我没记错的话，他在赛季初可是不突出。

[–]Rockets splanket 24 points 6 hours ago

His defense hasn't quite been what it was last year (which is in part due to losing wing defenders as well), but IMO having watched every game he's been mostly consistent through the year. Of course he wasn't grabbing 23 rebounds in back to back games then but that's just the nature of rebounds really, sometimes the balls just fall your way.

火箭球迷：他这个赛季的防守真有点不如上赛季（部分原因是因为我们失去了上赛季的侧翼防守人），但是我看了每场比赛，我觉得他这个赛季大多数时候表现非常稳定。当然乐，他不能在背靠背的比赛中都拿到23个板，不过这就是他的篮板属性，有时候就是球找他。

[–]Raptors Abyss333333 758 points 8 hours ago

I dont see how this is impressive.

1) it's not 40 ppg exactly

2) 100% sure 35 of those points come from free throws or step back 3s that are clearly travels

3) probably plays no defense.

4) even tho cp3 might be hurt, his gravity from the bench leaves harden open

5) he isnt unbeaten in the 8 game stretch.

Overall, I disagree that Harden is having a good 8 game stretch

猛龙球迷：我不觉得哈登有多突出啊。

1、不完全是场均40分；

2、100%肯定的是，他这些得分里有35是来自罚球或者是明显走步的后撤步三分啊；

3、或许他还没有防守；

4、保罗虽说伤了，但是他在板凳上的引力作用让哈登得到了空位啊；

5、他没有保持连续八场不败啊。

综上所述，我不觉得哈登连续8场比赛表现出色。

[–]Rockets Siryummy 95 points 7 hours ago

Honestly had my blood boiling for a second. Call it PTSD from browsing this sub too much but took me a second to figure out this was a joke

火箭球迷：说实话，我有那么一秒钟暴躁了。或许是看这个专区的帖子太多，留下后遗症了，居然花了我一段时间才知道你是友军。

[–]Rockets chase-316 179 points 8 hours ago

I liked point 4.

火箭球迷：我喜欢第四点。

[–]Pelicans Sslagathor 63 points 9 hours ago

2006 Kobe mode

鹈鹕球迷：这是06年的科比模式啊。

[–]Celtics MarcusNotSmart 90 points 9 hours ago

Harden had 41 on 15/35 today

In 2006 Kobe had:

15/36 for 42 points

12/35 for 36 points

18/39 for 43 points

sounds a lot like Kobe to me

凯尔特人球迷：哈登今天35中15拿下41分。

2006年的科比：

36中15拿下42分；

35中12拿下36分；

39中18拿下43分；

这么一来，我倒觉得很像科比。

[–][HOU] Hakeem Olajuwon goat0 68 points 9 hours ago

except harden's most fga this season was today.

he hasn't taken 40 shots this season.

he's scored 54 on 32 shots, 50 on 26 shots, 47 on 31 shots, 43 on 20 shots, etc.

more points on less shots with better passing.

火箭球迷：不过哈登这个赛季出手次数最多的比赛也就是今天啊。

他这个赛季出手次数还没达到过40.

他拿54分的时候出手32次，50分那场出手26次，47分那场出手31次，43分那场出手20次。

都是用更少的出手拿到更多的得分，而且传球也更好。

[–][HOU] Moochie Norris dlhtxcs 19 points 8 hours ago

I’ve seen a lot of people (not necessarily in this thread) bringing up his 35 shots today as a way to discredit him but 35 shots for him is an outlier. He hardly ever shoots that much. I guess people will always find things to complain about though.

火箭球迷：我已经看到过很多人（不一定是这个帖子里）都拿他今天出手35次来黑他，但他今天的35次出手是特例，他之前基本没有这么多出手。不过我觉得有些人总会找到理由来喷他。

[–]Jawfrey 11 points 7 hours ago

Harden plays like a PG. Kobe never did. Can't use that against Kobe.

Play style is KEY.

Kobe was lethal. I don't think Harden is looked at the same way by coaches and players. Very different. Also, the shots Kobe hit was fucking crazy.

but Harden is a beast though, no hate from me.

哈登打得像一个控卫。科比就不是这样。不能用这个来否定科比。

打法是区别的关键。

科比是致命的，我觉得教练和球员不会这么看待哈登。他俩是很不一样的，而且，科比的投篮是特么非常疯狂的。

但是哈登也是个猛兽，我不讨厌他。

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[–]Warriors Pipperypembo 212 points 9 hours ago

Apparently not top 5 though

勇士气密：很显然他不在前五之中。

[–][LAL] D'Angelo Russell Kory_Is_In_The_House 73 points 9 hours ago

My brother literally said this today because in his opinion, top 5 players have to be "elitw defenders". His list (in no order) was Giannis, Kawhi, Curry, Durant, Embiid

湖人球迷：我兄弟今天真这么说了，因为在他看来，前五球员必须要是顶尖的防守人。他的榜单上（不分先后）有字母哥、莱昂纳德、库里、杜兰特和恩比德。

[–]Raptors KawhiGotUsNow 24 points 9 hours ago

Fuck your brother

猛龙球迷：让你兄弟滚犊子吧。

[–]Supersonics Olajuwinn 15 points 8 hours ago

My lil bro bout to beat your brother’s ass

超音速球迷：我弟弟要捶你哥了。

[–]Spurs aged_monkey 15 points 8 hours ago

Are you sure your brother isn't your nephew?

马刺球迷：你确定你兄弟不是你侄子？

[–]Celtics k0ala_ 58 points 9 hours ago

Embiid wtf

凯尔特人球迷：居然还有恩比德，我勒个去

[–]Bucks lupe_the_jedi 340 points 8 hours ago

Embiid over harden is wrong but no lebron at all is a damn crime

雄鹿球迷：恩比德都在哈登之前，这就错了。不过连勒布朗都没有，这特么就是犯罪了。

[–][LAL] D'Angelo Russell Kory_Is_In_The_House 52 points 8 hours ago

Exacttly what i tried to ssy but honestly hes just a crazy kobe fan that does whatever he can to discredit Bron

湖人球迷：这也正是我想说的。不过老实说，我兄弟是个科比脑残粉，他会用一切办法黑老詹。

[–]Rockets imyourking12 20 points 8 hours ago

Giannis shouldn’t be over Harden either

火箭球迷：字母哥也不该在哈登之前啊。

[–]Bucks lupe_the_jedi 18 points 7 hours ago

I’ll admit I may be slightly biased as a Bucks fan. It’s tough for me, they’re both amazing. All love to harden though

雄鹿球迷：我承认我作为一个雄鹿粉丝或许有点偏心。他和哈登都很出色，我很难说谁更强。不过我是蛮喜欢哈登的。

[–]Rockets SoldierStatus 148 points 8 hours ago

TIL Curry is an "elite defender".

火箭球迷：还说啥库里是个“顶尖防守人”……

[–]Rockets jmbourn45 40 points 8 hours ago

Hes not even close lol. Hes a decent defender nowhere near elite. His brother is drunk drunk

火箭球迷：库里的防守离顶尖还差得远啊，哈哈哈。他防守还可以，但是远远称不上顶尖啊。他的兄弟喝高了。

[–]Lakers MunchiePea27 51 points 9 hours ago

Curry and Durant are not elite defenders

湖人球迷：库里和杜兰特都不是顶尖防守人。

[–]Warriors tossinkittens 7 points 8 hours ago

Agreed but neither is LeBron.

勇士球迷：我同意，不过勒布朗也不是。

[–]Lakers MunchiePea27 19 points 8 hours ago

Agreed lol just because I’m a laker fan doesn’t mean I think he’s an elite defender

湖人球迷：哈哈哈，我也同意。虽说我是湖蜜，但我不觉得乐邦是顶尖防守人。

[–]Raptors DeKobe-DeBryant 31 points 9 hours ago

He’s the most unguardable player in the league.

猛龙球迷：哈登是联盟最难防的球员。

[–]Lakers Lonzo_AirBall 301 points 9 hours ago

best offensive player in the league

湖人球迷：哈登是联盟最佳进攻球员。

[–]Bulls ivandragostwin 40 points 9 hours ago

Tough to argue in the regular season. The past 5 years or so he’s proven himself as the most consistent scorer in the league.

I’d still take playoff LeBron over him, but LeBron can’t give that effort night in and night out anymore.

公牛球迷：要放在常规赛的话，很难与你争辩。毕竟过往五个赛季，他已经证明了自己是联盟中最为稳定的得分手。

不过我还是觉得季后赛的詹姆斯比他强，只是勒布朗没法每个晚上都使出全力了。

[–]Rockets AaronRodgers16 287 points 9 hours ago

Literally unwatchable basketball

火箭球迷：还有说哈登的篮球没法看。

[–]Spurs aged_monkey 73 points 8 hours ago

Its a taste thing. I think he's the most exciting and entertaining player in the league. To each his/her own.

马刺球迷：这就是喜好问题了。我觉得他是联盟最具观赏性且最让人兴奋的球员。萝卜白菜各有所爱嘛。

[–][TOR] Delon Wright DelonWright 67 points 8 hours ago

Definitely a taste thing. I see why many would enjoy his style of play, but he’s one of my least favourite players to watch due to his iso after iso.

猛龙球迷：肯定是个人喜好的区别。我明白为啥这么多人喜欢他的打法，但他是我最喜欢看的球员之一，因为他一个又一个的单打。

[–]fartsinthedark 22 points 7 hours ago

I just like watching Harden break basically any defender guarding him off the dribble. There's nothing anyone can really do to stop him from scoring or dishing with man-to-man defense; he kills everyone one-on-one, including the best perimeter defenders.

我就喜欢看哈登带球突破他遇到的几乎每个防守人。几乎没人能阻止他得分，或者是能防住他。他一对一可以挑落任何人，哪怕是最好的外线防守人。

[–]Bucks dusters 15 points 8 hours ago*

Wait, you think Harden is the most entertaining player in the league? I know there is taste but that's just so out there. When Harden isn't getting to the line all the time he's fun to watch but even then watching Curry just launch 3s out of no-where or Giannis dunk from everywhere is still pretty easily more exciting.

雄鹿球迷：等等，是有人觉得哈登是联盟最具观赏性的球员吗？我知道各有所爱，可是这也太过了。当哈登不是一心造犯规的时候，他的比赛确实好看。可就连库里那些无中生有的三分和字母哥无处不在的扣篮，很明显，这些更让人兴奋吧。

[–][HOU] Rafer Alston anupvoteforyou 40 points 8 hours ago

watching Curry just launch 3s out of no-where or Giannis dunk from everywhere is still pretty easily more exciting.

Curry can't dunk on people. Giannis can't launch 3s.

Harden can do both. With amazing handles and passing.

He can do everything on offense.

火箭球迷：“可就连库里那些无中生有的三分和字母哥无处不在的扣篮，很明显，这些更让人兴奋吧。”

库里没法隔扣吧，字母哥没法投三分吧。

哈登两样都可以，而且还有出色的控球和传球。

他在进攻中无所不能。

[–]Dytripp 17 points 8 hours ago

Harden is great to watch because he’s one of the smartest offensive players I’ve ever watched. The man just waits for his opponent to make a mistake and more often than not ends up placing himself in a good position to score.

哈登的比赛很好看，因为他是我见过的最聪明的进攻手之一。他就等着对手犯错，而且经常让自己处于有利的得分位置。

[–]KlaysToaster 72 points 9 hours ago

I hate this sub. Anything gets upvoted right after a game. They have a good game they’re the goat and if they have a bad game they suckZ

我讨厌这个专区。一场比赛过后什么评论都能上热评。球员们打了一场精彩比赛，就被捧成历史最佳。他们要是打得不好，就被喷的稀烂。

[–]NBA fuckyouraesthetic 76 points 9 hours ago

Top 10 offensive player ever

哈登是历史前十进攻手。

[–]Mavericks b4da__ 26 points 8 hours ago*

pick 1 to put Harden over

Kobe

Kareem

Hakeem

Shaq

Durant

Curry

Duncan

Jordan

LeBron

Chamberlain

Baylor

Doncic

独行侠球迷：从以下球员中挑一个不如哈登的吧：科比、贾巴尔、奥拉朱旺、奥尼尔、杜兰特、库里、邓肯、乔丹、勒布朗、张伯伦、贝勒和东契奇。

[–][TOR] Kawhi Leonard TheQ6Gawd 38 points 7 hours ago

Duncan, Harden is a better offensive player than him.

猛龙球迷：邓肯吧，哈登的进攻比他强。

[–]NBA DictatorPie 29 points 7 hours ago

Tim was known for both defense and offense but if you look at Tim's offense in a vacuum vs Harden's then its obvious Harden is better offensively.

邓肯以攻防俱佳而著称，不过如果你单论邓肯的进攻，很明显，他是不如哈登的。

[–][HOU] Rafer Alston anupvoteforyou 84 points 8 hours ago

Mavs flair with Doncic on the list and no Dirk

火箭球迷：顶着独行侠的主队LOGO，榜单上有东契奇，却没有诺维茨基……

[–]Mavericks b4da__ 16 points 8 hours ago

there's 11 names on the list anyways and I added doncic as a joke. Theres even more better offensive players i could've added i just chose the 10 first I could think of that are better.

独行侠球迷：我的榜单上列了11个人啊，加上东契奇就是闹着玩。还有很多更好的进攻球员我还能加的，我只是选了我能想到的10个比哈登更强的。

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