【美帝键盘侠】德罗赞谈钱非万能|众网友分享金钱观

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[Bleacher Report] DeMar DeRozan on the public perception of famous athletes: “People say ‘What are you depressed about? You can buy anything you want.’ I wish everyone in the world was rich so they would realize money isn’t everything.”

B/R：德玛尔-德罗赞谈及著名球员的各种问题时说：“人们总是说‘你们这些人到底为啥会焦虑？你们可以买任何你们想要的东西。’我希望这个世界上的每个人都很富裕，这样他们就能认识到钱并不是万能的。”

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[–][BKN] Vince CarterBoogiesAchilles 5984 指標 19小時前

Having money’s not everything, not having it is

篮网球迷：有钱不是万能的，没有钱是万万不能的。

[–]RaptorsIanicRR 821 指標 18小時前

That bar will forever resonate with me because I’m broke as shit and it’s true. Not that I’m unhappy but it sure makes life a lot more stressful/difficult.

It kills me that as a high schooler is was sitting comfortably on a 15k account from working 4 years of high school and being very smart with my money. Only to be stupid and pay my entire first year of university without a salary, emptying my accounts, still needing a student loan for the other 3 years and being perpetually broke since. Damnit I should have just kept my money and gotten a stupid loan all 4 years. At least then I would have had a safety net in my account.

Sorry, rant over.

猛龙球迷：这句话将永远和我产生共鸣，因为我已经破产了。不要怀疑，这是件真的事情。但我并不是不快乐，但是拥有很大压力以及生活非常艰难倒是真的。

实际上我高中的时候打工打了四年、拥有1万5千美元的存款，对于理财也有着自己的想法。我做的唯一一件愚蠢的事情就是用我的存款付了第一年的学费，而且此后也没有啥工资入账了，而且还需要负担另外三年的学生贷款，此后我就一直处于破产状态了。该死，我就应该保留自己的钱然后贷四年的款，这样做至少能看到银行账户上有不少钱，这会让我有不少安全感啊。

抱歉有点失态了。

[–]SpursFuckTimBeck 251 指標 16小時前

I feel you my dude. Did something similar fucked around and ended up homeless for awhile when I was in law school.

马刺球迷：我能感同身受……我的处境和你挺像的，当我在念法律学校的时候，我甚至无家可归。

[–]76ersWalletsgone 99 指標 12小時前

As someone in my second year of law school right now, I can’t even imagine how hard that must have been. I hope you’re living comfortably now.

76人球迷：作为一个现在正在法律学校念大二的学生，我甚至无法想象当时的场景……我希望你现在能生活的舒适一些。

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[–]WarriorsIonkkll 1745 指標 19小時前

Money doesn't buy happiness, it buys the opportunity to pursue happiness

勇士球迷：钱不能买来幸福，但是却能买来追求幸福的机会。

[–]WarriorsGGAllinsMicroPenis 904 指標 19小時前

I think something that gets left out is that fame makes it worse, because you become isolated and run in increasingly insular social circles. It becomes alienating, and you can become lonely. And it's a very surreal kind of loneliness, because everyone's yelling your name, supporting you, loving you, but from a distance, like you're looking at the world through a mobile plexiglass cell. And that kind of loneliness can, in some ways, be the worst of all. It's like dying of thirst adrift on the ocean, staring at water 24 hours a day without a drop to drink.

If you're rich and nobody knows who the fuck you are there's some freedom there that NBA players and other celebs don't get to enjoy, and thus I think that kind of rich has more happy people among its ranks.

勇士球迷：我觉得过度的名声确实让事情变得更糟，因为这会让你变得孤立无援、宛如鼓捣，这会让你在越来越孤独的圈子里游荡，他会让你疏远他人、让你变得更为孤独，而且这是一种非常规的孤独，因为每个人都在呼唤你的名字、支持你、爱你，但是从远处看，你就好像一个浮游有机单细胞生物在看着世界罢了。从某种程度而言，这种孤独是最糟糕的孤独，这就好像漂流在海上渴死一样，尽管每天都盯着水，但是一滴水都不能喝。

如果你很有钱而且没人知道你是谁，你拥有无限的自由的话确实会很幸福。但是NBA球员和很多其他名人并不能享受这样的自由，因此我觉得前者要比后者更快乐。

[–]Raptorsjaimonee 321 指標 18小時前

Nicely put. I remember reading a quote from Bill Murray "I always want to say to people who want to be rich and famous: 'try being rich first'. See if that doesn't cover most of it. There's not much downside to being rich, other than paying taxes and having your relatives ask you for money. But when you become famous, you end up with a 24-hour job."

猛龙球迷：总结的不错，我还记得曾经读到过比尔-穆雷的一句话：“我总是相对那些想成名或者是想有钱的人说这样一句话：‘尝试着先有钱起来’。成为有钱人除了需要付税收还有应付亲戚们的借钱之外没有太多的烦心事，但是如果你出名了，迎接你的就是24个小时永不停息的工作。”

[–]OldManHadTooMuchWine 107 指標 17小時前

John Malkovich said that when it comes to being famous, he basically pays back every benefit he might get. Like, he might get a nice seat at a restaurant, but also has to take 10 selfies with people.

约翰-马尔科维奇也谈过成名的方面的事情，他说成名带来的每一个好处都要付出相同的代价，比如名气可能会让你在餐馆里得到不错的位置，但是你需要和十个人一起自拍。

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[–]Knicksconfuddly 2216 指標 21小時前

I too wish everyone was rich

尼克斯球迷：我也希望每个人都变得有钱起来。

[–][TOR] Jose Calderondeadskin 1019 指標 21小時前

If everyone is rich, then no one is

猛龙球迷：如果每个人都很有钱，那什么才叫富有啊？

[–]Celticsdfghjdfrtjhef 973 指標 20小時前

If I have a yacht, I don't give a fuck if everyone else also a has yacht

凯尔特人球迷：如果我有一艘游艇，我特么才不在乎其他人有没有游艇。

[–]BullsHarmonicon 481 指標 20小時前

until the ocean is choke full of everyone's yachts it just becomes a giant dock?

公牛球迷：直到大家都游艇都填满海洋，海洋变成船坞你才在乎起来？

[–]Celticsdfghjdfrtjhef 625 指標 20小時前

Who cares, I have a yacht

凯尔特人球迷：谁特么在乎，反正我有游艇了。

[–]Hornetsstrong_schlong 399 指標 18小時前

I wish everyone had a yacht so they would realize yachts aren't everything.

黄蜂球迷：我希望每个人都拥有游艇，所以他们才能意识到游艇不意味着一切。

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[–]richmuhlach 840 指標 21小時前

Yes. Give me money because I need the opportunity to realize that money isn’t everything.

话说回来，你需要给我钱因为我需要这个机会去意识到钱不是一切。

[–]76ersanser1233 903 指標 21小時前

Money does make a difference in happiness but only up to a certain amount

76人球迷：金钱确实能给人以幸福感，但是有上限的。

[–]Raptors99Raps 298 指標 21小時前

IIRC, a professor in university told me it was $75k.

猛龙球迷：有大学教授说是75000美元。

[–]HeatErectusPenor 340 指標 20小時前*

Basically it's whatever amount of income that allows you to live a life free of monetary stress. Living in debt, or at least pay check to pay check, that's what affects your happiness.

热火球迷：实际上无论收入多少都能让你获得没有金钱压力的生活，债务、或者说不停地支付支票从一定程度上会影响你的幸福指数。

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[–][DAL] Brian Cardinaldirk-41 795 指標 20小時前

Demar grew up in Compton surrounded by hardship. He had family members killed because of gang violence. You think he doesn't understand what it means to struggle to get by? He has seen the whole spectrum and still feels this way.

独行侠球迷：德罗赞在洛杉矶康普顿地区，他经历了很多艰难困苦，他的家庭成员由于枪支以及暴力被杀，你觉得他不理解挣扎困苦的日子意味着什么？他已经见过了各种风风雨雨，但是他依然感觉到自己并不开心。

[–]FloorSeatsAtSpaceJam 430 指標 20小時前

His claim is not “money does not make you happy”, his claim is “it is possible to be unhappy while having a lot of money”. I think we need to get the logic right here before criticizing.

话说回来，他也没说“钱不能让你开心啊，”他的观点是“当你拥有很多钱时也不一定会开心。”我觉得我们在批判之前需要搞清楚逻辑。

[–][PHI] Markelle FultzDutchEnglish 410 指標 20小時前*

The sad reality about this thread is the fact that no one understands how depression or any type of mental health problem works just based off the comments.

If you have a mental health problem while people view and treat you like a cash cow while stating “hOw CaN yOu bE sAd? YoU’rE rIcH!” as if someone who is mentally unwell is supposed to be like “Oh yeah!”. As if they aren’t trying to force themselves to love their lives already.

I mean it’s fucking disgusting and shows how little mental illness is cared about. Yeah have chemical imbalances in your brain but hey money cures it all! As if the idea of killing yourself goes away when someone tells you that you should be happy and that you should be grateful for a life that they never lived and that they don’t understand.

DeMar probably has people trying to use him in every way and it’s probably been that way since he was 14. People all day talk shit to him and focus on negative shit more than positive but its cool because he’s rich. I swear to God it amazes me how much people bullshit themselves into believing that when you’re rich problems go away.

我觉得最令人难过的地方在于这个帖子里甚至没人能够理解正是你们的评论导致很多心理疾病以及焦虑症发作的。

如果你有心理疾病，人们看你或者对待你却如同摇钱树一样，他们一直阴阳怪气地说：“你咋难过？你很有钱啊！”就好像精神焦虑的人也应该来说一句：“你说得对。”，就好像他们没有尝试强迫自己去爱自己的生活一样，还需要你们提点他他才能意识到自己要爱自己的生活。

我的意思是正是这些评论显示了心理疾病被关心的有多少，没错心理疾病是脑内化学失衡造成的，但是金钱能治愈一切啊！他们总是觉得有钱的人应该感激那些他们不理解的或者是他们从未经历过的生活，有钱的人就应该开心，自杀的想法应该随着有钱烟消云散。

德罗赞可能从14岁开始就已经用一切人们给他提议过的办法来治愈自己的焦虑，人们总是一天到晚对他喷粪，总是关注于德罗赞的负面新闻而非正面消息，他们觉得这很酷因为德罗赞是一个有钱人，对有钱人喷粪不是很酷嘛？我向上帝发誓，最令我吃惊的事情莫过于这个世界上真的有很多人自欺欺人地相信当你富有的时候，任何问题都会消失。

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